"A History of the World XII" Planning/Sign-Up Thread...

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

Well, I sent my civ suggestions to Cyber late last night (my time), so you can bet that I want to be a part of this. I am a little disappointed though how a lot of this discussion is occurring without the Aussie players. Don't forget that our night is your day-& vice versa. I definitely want Tech Brokering in (we did lobby for it for BtS after all ), but I think that we should-at the very least-go through the tech info XML & make certain techs non-tradable. Also, even if people are down on every other mod I suggested, I at the very least think that a mod which allows for knowledge of a tech to "disseminate" across open borders is an absolute must.

Indeed, dare I suggest that the Map Decay Mod, TechConquestMod & the Trade Route Tech Leak Mod are absolutely vital to prevent any arguments about tech trading erupting in this game.

Aussie_Lurker.

[deity]

Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker
Well, I sent my civ suggestions to Cyber late last night (my time), so you can bet that I want to be a part of this. I am a little disappointed though how a lot of this discussion is occurring without the Aussie players. Don't forget that our night is your day-& vice versa. I definitely want Tech Brokering in (we did lobby for it for BtS after all ), but I think that we should-at the very least-go through the tech info XML & make certain techs non-tradable. Also, even if people are down on every other mod I suggested, I at the very least think that a mod which allows for knowledge of a tech to "disseminate" across open borders is an absolute must.

Indeed, dare I suggest that the Map Decay Mod, TechConquestMod & the Trade Route Tech Leak Mod are absolutely vital to prevent any arguments about tech trading erupting in this game.

Aussie_Lurker.

I'd love to use a mod Marcus but I'm so scared of connection issues; waiting for subs to install it correctly etc etc.

BTW I think as an Aussie I account for half of the posts

[Toni]

scared of connection issues; waiting for subs to install it correctly etc etc

AGREED may ruin the game for us

[Toni]

CS has the civ choises from:

trev
pinchak
The Capo
Toni
Heraclitus
LzPrst
deity
Asmo
Marcus

No civ picked:

Mr Lin

I think we should give him until tomorrow and if he doesn't post and read the new rules we drop him from the list. People should be accountable for their actions: he aslo said the time slot will be tough on him!

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

Hey look its less work for me, so I am ultimately not fussed, but then I don't want to hear people whinging about tech deals that they don't like.

At the VERY LEAST, though, we need to vote on which techs absolutely, categorically, can only be obtained by researching it themselves-all of the 'ism' techs fit that category-including religions-& so would writing & alphabet. Can we do this before we test connectivity guys?

Aussie_Lurker.

[deity]

Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker
Hey look its less work for me, so I am ultimately not fussed, but then I don't want to hear people whinging about tech deals that they don't like.

At the VERY LEAST, though, we need to vote on which techs absolutely, categorically, can only be obtained by researching it themselves-all of the 'ism' techs fit that category-including religions-& so would writing & alphabet. Can we do this before we test connectivity guys?

Aussie_Lurker.

Would love the mod/s but just wory about it.

Am happy with tech trading restrictins aloing the lines you suggested.

The Chairman to decide all this IMHO!

[Pinchak]

We should just turn tech brokering on.

[deity]

Pincak, I need your contact detasils.

See the HOTWXI Testing thread for my email.

[The Capo]

This is all well and good. But I still have no response to my last point; when did we agree on only old world tribes on an Earth map?

BTW, I disagree with the point that it is only a real HISTORY OF THE WORLD when on an Earth map. The term "world" could refer to any planet, let alone simple area (like the Islamic World, the Classical World, the Imperialist World etc...).

So I don't think the issue is resolved.

[The Capo]

BTW there's a test tonight right?

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

Pinchak, if HOTWXI is anything to go by, this alone will not be sufficient to stop people from complaining. No Tech Brokering should be on, but certain techs should also be totally OFF LIMITS for trade purposes.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by The Capo
This is all well and good. But I still have no response to my last point; when did we agree on only old world tribes on an Earth map?

BTW, I disagree with the point that it is only a real HISTORY OF THE WORLD when on an Earth map. The term "world" could refer to any planet, let alone simple area (like the Islamic World, the Classical World, the Imperialist World etc...).

So I don't think the issue is resolved.

I am but an observer, but I believe Lz intended to have a vote for the issue once the matter of whether to connect Old and New worlds was settled. It seems that vote is mostly in favor of unconnecting the two (with Hereclitis confused it seems). So I suppose the other matter will be voted on next.

[LzPrst]

Pin, I believe we have agreed to check No Tech Brokering.


Aussie_Lurker, the mods would be great, but diplogames are hassles to launch technically as it is. and I must admit that I don't have much experience with mods, and I suspect neither do a lot of our players. as such, there just might be a lot of worries and difficulties getting everything to work perfectly. and there's always a risk that a mod might have some hidden bug that we're not aware of.


also, there seems to be a majority in favor of separating the old and the new world. but a few good suggestions popped up. the need to build a city in greenland to get to america would be an interesting way of getting an early start. but it should be a mainly worthless city (maybe a whale). also, bering strait could be a possibility, the distances involved to get from fertile land in central asia to fertile land in north america should be maintenance-wise a hindrance in itself to get there. just a suggestion.

[LzPrst]

ozzy's right. First we're gonna decide whether to separate or not. for now there seems to be a majority in favor of separation.

2 In favor: Pinchak, Deity
0 Opposed:
3 Yes, but no: Toni, Heraclitus, Lzprst

myself, toni and heraclitus have all considered the merit of linking the hemispheres by difficult to reach trails... so our votes should possibly be opposed... instead I put them in the 3rd category, the 'Yes, but no' category

[The Capo]

We're voting to connect them? By land?

I just want an accurate map if we are using Earth, that's all.