Apolyton Fantasy Football (not soccer damnit)

[Ben Kenobi]

I'll sell Slowwy the 2 spot for 'future considerations' to be negotiated after the draft.

[SlowwHand]

Like I trust you a lot.

[Ben Kenobi]

Check your PMs.

[-Jrabbit]

Again, Ben? Really? There's absolutely no need to screw around with draft order trades, especially in a 10-team league. There is plenty of talent at the end of R1.

Can we please just draft like a regular league?

[Al B. Sure!]

[Ben Kenobi]

Again, Ben? Really? There's absolutely no need to screw around with draft order trades, especially in a 10-team league. There is plenty of talent at the end of R1.

Can we please just draft like a regular league?

I'm not talking about draft order trades. I'm talking about swapping spots so Slowwy gets my spot.

The poor guy is last in one league already. Do you really want an unhappy Slowwy?!

[-Jrabbit]

1. "The poor guy" is IMHO drafting in the best spot possible. Sloww gets two of the top 11 picks - a distinct advantage. (Maybe that's why you're "generously" offering to swap spots with him?) He will also be the first player to complete his roster. Why this would make him unhappy is beyond me. Maybe it's just his base state.
2. "We use random chance to establish the draft order, unless someone doesn't like it," just does not fly with me. The draft order was fairly arrived at. I regard it as written in stone.

I'm actually not too concerned about this, since Sloww has a well-developed sense of justice and fair play. I'm confident that, even if he doesn't like the draft order, he will take it like the man he is and make the best of it.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

...and thus, the policy on trades in IDP:

- All trades are public and final. There are no "future considerations", if there is a trade then the terms are specific and stated outright at the time of the trade. Only players and draft positions are available for trade during the draft. Obviously this is unenforceable in reality, so multiple trades between the same two people will be subject to review. In short, you can try to make a private deal for something in the future, but if you're on the end that's not getting everything in part A of the plan then there is significant risk that you won't get part B at all. Just something to keep in mind during negotiations.

- A player that is on the clock can not trade the current pick. I am not waiting four hours for somebody to respond and turn down a trade just so the original owner of the pick can use it as they would have four hours ago. All trades involving picks must be publicly announced in the draft thread before the picks involved come up.

- If you are involved in a trade, you are responsible for updating the draft order to reflect all changes. If you trade your third and sixth for somebody else's fourth and fifth, then you need to post the complete new draft order through round six.

- If you really intend to swap your entire draft, then you need to do it before -Jr makes the first pick (which he is able to do anytime he feels like at this point).

I'll copy these to the draft thread so everybody can see what the rules are.

[Jaguar]

I have returned to full internet access, but I'm majorly jetlagged; last time I slept on land was in Chania, Crete, and now I'm all the way back on the US East Coast.

[SlowwHand]

RE: Number 1 pick in DST and IDP. Interesting.

[MRT144]

RE: Number 1 pick in DST and IDP. Interesting.

If the assumption is he will continue to play at near record breaking levels then it's the pick to make, especially if you're confident in finding value later in the draft.

[Jaguar]

Yeah, I realize he's not in vogue as a #1 overall pick, but there's really no reason why he can't be.

[SlowwHand]

Do you think Sean Payton might have mixed feelings about this year? Let's forecast a Super Bowl win for the Saints. How much is he needed?
How much time is left on his contract? His leverage will be nil.

[Jaguar]

I think the Saints offensive system will go along unchanged. (Why would you change it? It works.) I think losing Payton will make a difference most on the tactical stuff like surprise plays and clock management, where Payton is notoriously aggressive and tricky. I think that won't affect fantasy football scoring, but it might affect real life W/L records a little bit.

[SlowwHand]

I bring it up here, but I meant real life. In spite of losing his ability to do surprise plays and clock manage, what if they won it all, without him?