Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[N35t0r]

It's totally understandable. I knew a tiny bit more coming off uni, but only because we covered pipelines in a small part of one course. It's not the most wide-spread or visual industry, to start with, and pretty much none of it is public-facing.

[PLATO]

I guess it doesn't help when most people's mental image of inspection pigs are two Bond films...

I have to admit that is what I pictured when the discussion of Pigs started

[N35t0r]

I didn't know that.

Yeah, I'm indirectly in the industry, and the amount of bull**** that gets thrown around as hare-brained theories is very funny.

I guess it doesn't help when most people's mental image of inspection pigs are two Bond films...

[Dinner]

No.

Using a pig would have been difficult, since most of them are not self-propelled and are limited to moving with the flow. Nord Stream 2 has had no flow since the initial acceptance tests, so it would have meant Russia put in an explosive while the line was still supposed to be put in operation, which would have come out on Germany's end.

I didn't know that.

[PLATO]

Let's not forget the two Russian warships that were nearby when this happened. My guess is an unmanned undersea drone attack directed from one of those ships.

[N35t0r]

I suppose the ones that are self propelled would be used instead?

Most self propelled pigs are tethered, since the power requirements of the ILI tool plus the propulsion method are huge. I guess a bomb with a timer has significantly less power requirements than the tool's sensors and electronics, but the motors are still the biggest power draw. The longest-ranged self propelled tools are all tethered, not autonomous, and 10km is more in line with their range, not 100, let alone 8-900 km.

[Geronimo]

No.

Using a pig would have been difficult, since most of them are not self-propelled and are limited to moving with the flow. Nord Stream 2 has had no flow since the initial acceptance tests, so it would have meant Russia put in an explosive while the line was still supposed to be put in operation, which would have come out on Germany's end.

I suppose the ones that are self propelled would be used instead?

[N35t0r]

I am still betting on the blast coming from I side the pipe probably from a pig (basically an R.C. car which goes inside the pipeline) loaded with exosives. Russia was not getting any revenue from the pipeline, it faced huge legal liability for shutting the pipeline down, it was clear the EU was going to stop buying Russian gas anyway so the pipeline wasn't likely to come back online, destroying it allows them to file insurance claims, and as an added bonus it adds to the market turmoil thus enhancing a Russian geo-stratic goal.

It also avoids getting seen by satellites or radar for increased deniability.

No.

Using a pig would have been difficult, since most of them are not self-propelled and are limited to moving with the flow. Nord Stream 2 has had no flow since the initial acceptance tests, so it would have meant Russia put in an explosive while the line was still supposed to be put in operation, which would have come out on Germany's end.

[Uncle Sparky]

Everyone can blame Truss for everything that happened during her 45 days in power.

[Dinner]

I am still betting on the blast coming from I side the pipe probably from a pig (basically an R.C. car which goes inside the pipeline) loaded with exosives. Russia was not getting any revenue from the pipeline, it faced huge legal liability for shutting the pipeline down, it was clear the EU was going to stop buying Russian gas anyway so the pipeline wasn't likely to come back online, destroying it allows them to file insurance claims, and as an added bonus it adds to the market turmoil thus enhancing a Russian geo-stratic goal.

It also avoids getting seen by satellites or radar for increased deniability.

[BeBMan]

After much fuss about Biden's comments regarding NordStream it looks now he is actually innocent re the pipe attacks, as Moscow switched officially to accuse the Brits.

[BeBMan]

They wisely build this already:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_Sunken_Ships

[PLATO]

Hindustan Times is reporting that the Russian Black Sea Fleet Flagship Admiral Makarov took significant damage in the drone strike on Sevastopol. It appears that the Russian Navy is losing the battle against a country that has no major surface combatants.

I hope Western Navies are taking note. You can bet their opponents as well as terrorist are.

[PLATO]

Jump to the 1:05'ish - it's pretty

It is a serious issue when the entire clergy of a country start preaching about and preparing their followers for Armageddon. Kind of like Jim Jones on a national scale.....

[Bereta_Eder]