Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Geronimo]

Just read that Russian missiles strayed into Poland and killed two people. This could get ugly fast.

Ugliest might be for NATO to ignore it

[PLATO]

Just read that Russian missiles strayed into Poland and killed two people. This could get ugly fast.

[The Mad Monk]

After taking Kherson, Ukraine has sent troops across the Dnipro river and liberated villages on the other side!!!

...or maybe not?

No, they did! Probably. Maybe. Could be, perhaps Russia should send some troops that way to check? Nah, they should just ignore it, and send all their troops to reinforce the Wagner groups' attack on whatever godforsaken little village they've be trying to seize for the past couple months. Maybe they SHOULD check...

[BeBMan]

“President Biden and President Xi reiterated their agreement that a nuclear war should never be fought and can never be won,” a White House readout said, referring to the threat of nuclear weapons use in Ukraine.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/13/politics/joe-biden-xi-jinping-meeting-g20-bali/index.html

[BeBMan]

Meanwhile, Putin did also retreat from the upcoming G20 summit.

[Dauphin]

De-advancement

[pchang]

Thanks to Russia for adding so much to our language. We now have so many different ways of saying “running away”.

retreat
regrouping
according to plan
retrograde maneuver
Kherson maneuver

[BlackCat]

Bleeding wounds that won't heal, amputation of limps, Russia saving 20.000 troops that can be set in in other places - unfortunately, Ukraine can send 60.000 troops. Oh, one part walking, the other part with full motorized equipment. I need Serb to explain why this is a Russian victory .

[BeBMan]

Putin ordered to move back and attack Ukraine and the whole world via the Pacific to surprise anyone

[Proteus_MST]

Kherson liberatus est?

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63576212

Now we definitely need Serb in order to explain to us that, in reality, this is a tactical clever maneuver by Russia
that will result in Russia conquering the Ukraine and all the west

[N35t0r]

Saving gas? What? Next you'll tell me I should be going around in more than shorts and a t-shirt while inside.

[BeBMan]

Looks like Ukrainian forces are still battling heroic Russian mines and booby traps. There was a news bit a while ago of Ukrainian civilians in Kherosn coming out, but who knows if these were real, or the Russian soldiers in civvie clothes Dauphin mentioned (Russian stealth fighters?).


IMO it's time for some regrouping in the Kremlin.

In other news: no, there is no mass-cutting down of trees in Germany due to people freezing everywhere. Just in case someone comes across this gem
It's Nov 11, outside temperatures have been almost 20C last week, still nearly 15C today. Gas storages are full, like in 99+ % full. So basically full full, which covers ca. two months in normals times, but without new stuff like further LNG planned to go online in Dec. or outrageous stuff like saving counted in.

[PLATO]

I have seen a lot about Ukraine waning to protect the lives of their soldiers recently. Zelenskyy is saying that this is the reason for the slow advance. If the Ukrainians can have success in reducing Russian Forces with artillery then they will do that, but I think the main objective is to just get them out of the city at this point. I imagine that both armies are exhausted at this point.

Anyone know when western trained Ukrainians will begin filling the ranks? I have not heard a word about this.

[Geronimo]

I wonder if the himars and real time Intel is good enough for Ukraine to blow up the Ferries or if it is but they want to leave Russians an exit. Conventional wisdom says always leave your enemy an exit, but I wonder if in this case it would be better to trap and kill/capture them all since they will surely otherwise face them on the far side of the river later on.

[Dinner]

Regrouping continues:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63573387

(edit: not sure if this is final, last I heard was fears about a Russain "trap" in regard to positive news recently, but I guess we'll find out at some pt)

Supposedly Russia has had massive supply problems ever since the Kerch Bridge was bombed. So bad they've been running out of fuel and artillery shells. There is only two ways out of the western pocket, two bridges, neither of which can support heavy equipment due to damage. That means the 20,000-40,000 Russian troops will need to go through those choke points. Expect those two points to become killing fields especially as forces back up waiting to get across. Bunched up troops are dead troops as they make excellent targets.

These are supposedly Russia's best trained and best equipped units so other than a tiny amount of heavy equipped that can get out by ferry boat all of that heavy equipment is going to get lost by Russia. They will either destroy it themselves or it will get captured by Ukraine. This is going to be a bonanza for Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/mbl1v_4vqbA