Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[PLATO]

Ah, more Puck stuff to put into your throats :

While I do follow his logic (and agree with it to an extent), I keep hearing Fred Thompson saying "Russians don't take a dump without a plan, son"

[PLATO]

The shoot and scoot time for towed and motorized units are close to each other. The real difference is that the motorized thingy are faster to deploy and have better targeting equipment.

Wiki shows about 2.5 minutes for setup and same for moving out for M777. It shows quite a bit more for older artillery pieces. Not sure what Russian designed systems can do.

[BlackCat]

Ah, more Puck stuff to put into your throats :

[BlackCat]

Towed artillery is pretty out of date and can only really be used if the other side doesn't have effective modern counter battery fire systems. Motorized artillery, so you can shoot and scoot, is really the only sustainable was to go on the modern battlefield.

The shoot and scoot time for towed and motorized units are close to each other. The real difference is that the motorized thingy are faster to deploy and have better targeting equipment.

[Dinner]

This is a bit interesting (at least for me) - it looks like the Ukrainian army has gotten some 105 mm howitzers of the same type I carried around back in 79 (there was a production year on it - 1943 )

Towed artillery is pretty out of date and can only really be used if the other side doesn't have effective modern counter battery fire systems. Motorized artillery, so you can shoot and scoot, is really the only sustainable was to go on the modern battlefield.

[BeBMan]

In 10 yrs Ukraine will use hypersonic tractors to pull'em across the landscape

[BlackCat]

This is a bit interesting (at least for me) - it looks like the Ukrainian army has gotten some 105 mm howitzers of the same type I carried around back in 79 (there was a production year on it - 1943 )

[PLATO]

We thought they meant they had missiles that can travel at several times the apples of sound, but in the end they were just missiles that make a lot of noise.

And had performance and guidance issues to boot!

[N35t0r]

We thought they meant they had missiles that can travel at several times the apples of sound, but in the end they were just missiles that make a lot of noise.

[BeBMan]

We don't hear much about hypersonic missiles these days anymore. People were not sufficiently impressed, I'm afraid

[BlackCat]

This will probably make Serb cry. Oh, and she have wonderful dry humor

[N35t0r]

Do you get snow most years?

Back in Argentina, I lived in Buenos Aires where it has snowed twice in recorded history, only a cm or so. Last Feb I was at my in-laws', about 300km further north so no snow ever.

Over here it used to snow consistently (at least that's what they tell me), but there hadn't been consistent snow cover for more than a couple of days since a long while ago until the winter before last (when we got here), and we had a full month of snow cover.

Last winter there were some days it snowed, but nothing that lasted for long.

It seems like this winter it will also be mild (it did snow last weekend, but also only a cm or two, didn't last much).

[pchang]

Russia does not appear to treat its soldiers well.

[pchang]

Things do not look good for them: https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/europ...cmd/index.html

[Dinner]

Well, one of us is dumb. I give you that.