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  • Originally posted by Ming View Post

    And when did he make that promise... It certainly didn't come up with it while he was pouting and not doing his job and just spending time on his coup... He pretty much stayed out of the negotiations and sent his lackey, the one who was pushing 600... and it wasn't until later and after the fact that he came up with his promise...
    So yeah, I question his real motives as well....
    He tweeted that when the negotiations began. The negotiations were over the pork that Congress wanted, and the Ds wanted 4 trillion.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • Wow, such a strong effort, call me impressed. What did that take, 30 seconds? Wow this guy really gets dirty and into the trenches fighting for the American people.

      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • "We need to send a clean bill with just $2,000 survival checks and a separate spending/covid relief bill.

        “Negotiating everything into one bill is how we got here, since Trump wants to sign a bill with survival checks, let’s send one to his desk right away.”
        - Rep. Omar
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • And gee, it was Trumps own representative for the negotiations that came up with the compromise bill that he later trashed...
          Maybe he should have gotten involved himself instead of hiding in the White House pouting...
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • Ted Striker
            Ted Striker commented
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            Exactly, the latest version of the bill didn't have ANY checks until Trump finally softened in December and that $600 was from him and his Treasury bro. Hilarious how he positioned himself as opposition to his own proposal. LOL

        • Originally posted by Ming View Post
          And gee, it was Trumps own representative for the negotiations that came up with the compromise bill that he later trashed...
          Maybe he should have gotten involved himself instead of hiding in the White House pouting...
          That doesn't mean it's what Trump wanted. The negotiator was just trying to get a deal between two sides. It's a horrible deal. You shouldn't be proud of it.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • -Jrabbit
            -Jrabbit commented
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            Don't be naive; this isn't about making a deal.
            What Trump wants is chaos. He said nothing beforehand so that he could threaten to veto whatever bill finally arrived at his desk.
            And here we are.

          • Kidlicious
            Kidlicious commented
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            He asked for a clean bill in the beginning. That's a fact. Get it through your head.

        • Never said I was... and frankly, I thought it sucked. most compromises do.
          But the point I was making is that Trump had checked out on it and left it to his guy... he didn't stay involved.
          And frankly, I think his jumping into the fray now is based more on Trump trying to be liked and pissing off the people that didn't support him like he wanted. Yeah, opinion, but I believe it.
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • Originally posted by Ming View Post
            Never said I was... and frankly, I thought it sucked. most compromises do.
            But the point I was making is that Trump had checked out on it and left it to his guy... he didn't stay involved.
            And frankly, I think his jumping into the fray now is based more on Trump trying to be liked and pissing off the people that didn't support him like he wanted. Yeah, opinion, but I believe it.
            You keep ignoring the fact that they wanted the pork and Trump didn't. Would Trump accept some? Probably, but it's a particularly bad bill.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • Again... please point out where I have EVER said I like the pork or approve of it.
              And don't try to paint Trump as a anti porker. In this case, maybe, but in the past, he's been as bad as the rest trying to get his stuff and agenda added to bills.
              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • Of course he's anti-pork. He promised to sign a clean bill giving everyone $1200. And now he's going up to $2000 to make a deal.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • -Jrabbit
                  -Jrabbit commented
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                  Wow, you really do just reflexively spout whatever they tell you. I love how you're blindly accepting the idea that the greediest, most self-dealing sociopath on the planet has some kind of ethical objection to pork. It's truly laughable.

                  Again, if he actually cared about the details of the bill, all he had to do was send Mitch his checklist. Instead, he wants to broker whatever deal gets done, hoping to force the rank and file to choose between loyalty to Trump and GOP. It reads like a revenge shot at McConnell, TBH.

                • Kidlicious
                  Kidlicious commented
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                  He isn't a sociopath but you have a bad problem called Trump Derangement Syndrome and it causes you to have absurd beliefs to the point of hilarity.

              • Again, I won't argue that "this time". But I do question his actual motivations here.
                He really is screwing his fellow Republicans... and that I really enjoy
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                  Of course he's anti-pork. He promised to sign a clean bill giving everyone $1200. And now he's going up to $2000 to make a deal.
                  Nope, he threw his errand boy under the bus for his own lack of involvement. He had months to review the proposed legislation, can't come at the 11th hour and claim you don't know about it.

                  Keep licking those boots though

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...sm/ar-BB1cbuZe

                  Fox News Anchor Says Trump 'Throwing' Mnuchin 'Under the Bus' With Stimulus Criticism

                  "President Trump is throwing his treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, under the bus," Bret Baier said Wednesday during a segment of Fox News show America's Newsroom. "Mnuchin has been in the conversation for months with [congressional] leadership about how this was going to go and what compromise they could agree to, and finally getting to this compromise that was passed through both chambers and now the president's saying, 'It's not good enough for me.'"
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • Ted Striker
                    Ted Striker commented
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                    Love seeing the GOP implode in on itself LOL.

                • Doesn't matter if he "threw him under the bus," or not. Trump wanted a clean bill. That's what he said and they could have given him one you fool.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • Ted Striker
                    Ted Striker commented
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                    He was involved the whole time and knew what garbage was being loaded into the bill.

                • Originally posted by Ming View Post
                  Again, I won't argue that "this time". But I do question his actual motivations here.
                  He really is screwing his fellow Republicans... and that I really enjoy
                  They aren't his fellow Republicans. The are Swamp trash. He ran against them.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • Gee... those same republicans who were his best buddies until they wouldn't support his coup...
                    One might argue they are the real republicans while Trump is the Swamp trash...
                    Keep on Civin'
                    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • You don't like the pork bill but you still side with the Republicans that put it in so you can pay 9x in tax what they give you for Covid relief. Whatever Ming.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • -Jrabbit
                        -Jrabbit commented
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                        Kidiot, so clueless.

                      • Ming
                        Ming commented
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                        Yep... totally clueless
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