Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[Jon Miller]

I had not anticipated the US topping 3000 deaths per day. It looks like we will though.

JM

[-Jrabbit]

On Wednesday, the U.S. reported 181,490 new COVIC-19 cases and 2,297 deaths. The disease has killed more than 268,000 Americans (wiping the equivalent of St. Petersburg FL off the map) and infected at least 12.7 million ( more people than Pennsylvania, our 5th largest state).

Also on Wednesday, Trump told the nation in his Thanksgiving proclamation that they should "gather" and made zero mention of safety protocols to minimize the spread of COVID-19. Another demonstration of the fact that he doesn't give a crap about actual people.

Happy Thanksgiving, my friends. Stay safe.

[Ted Striker]

Interesting link, says 90% of the expenditures are from chronic ailments (mostly heart disease) and mental health diseases. Prevention can cut down alot of those factors. Sedentary lifestyle, diet, and stress (inflammation) are all items that need an overhaul

[Dauphin]

What percentage of the population has cancer?

Cost of cancer care in the US is about $174bn. The US spends about $3.5tr. Cancer care doesn't represent much of the cost, albeit a slightly outsized cost

https://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/a...osts/index.htm

[BlackCat]

Easily. But the pharma and med industries have based their global business models on the current market inequities of the US system (Medicare not allowed to negotiate drug prices, separate pricing for the uninsured, etc), so the changeover would be extremely bumpy.

I find it quite weird that you don't say anything about the insurance companies - they are probably one of the worst problems you have when exploiting sick people.

[giblets]

What percentage of the population has cancer?

[Dauphin]

Doesn’t something like 50% of US health spending come from 5% of individuals. How skew is taking a mean?

[-Jrabbit]

Easily. But the pharma and med industries have based their global business models on the current market inequities of the US system (Medicare not allowed to negotiate drug prices, separate pricing for the uninsured, etc), so the changeover would be extremely bumpy.

[pchang]

If we had a single payer that was allowed to negotiate drug and procedure pricing, we could probably insure everyone and keep the per capita to the current level.

[Jon Miller]

A better number would be to say 28% of Americans are under-insured/uninsured. Which means that, using our approach, to insure everyone would cost about 16260 per person.

JM

[Ted Striker]

But that’s Socialism ! ™ Something something extreme left, something something AOC

[N35t0r]

You can't lead people who refuse to be lead.

Even with 50% vaccination rate, covid's impact will diminish hugely.

Of course, long-term prospects hinge on how long immunity lasts, as well as how many people get it.

[Ted Striker]

YouTube Suspends OANN for a Week After It Posted Fake Covid-19 Cure

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/busin...-cure/2240532/

Should also be charges for messing with peoples’ lives like that. Literally fake news

[BlackCat]

Ah, but without video - that's why I didn't notice it

[BeBro]

Pchang also posted it a bit ago,

But I liked it