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**Kidlicious** · December 23, 2020, 20:50

"Several White House advisors reportedly attempted to stop President Donald Trump from publishing the fiery video that slammed Congress over the monstrous COVID-19 relief bill and threatened to veto if the "disgrace" is not amended.

"He vetoed them. GOP leadership wanted to talk tonight afterward, but the President said there was nothing more to talk about," One America News Network's Jack Posobiec reported."

- Post Millenial

**Kidlicious** · December 23, 2020, 22:01

Lindsey Graham knows which way the wind is blowing. Must say, gutsy stand against Big Tech, if it's not just words.

"I support President @realDonaldTrump's demand to increase direct payments for long-suffering Americans to $2,000 per person.

And I also support his call to end Section 230 Big Tech legal liability protections.

Let’s vote."

**-Jrabbit** · December 24, 2020, 03:44

Another 232,000 new COVID cases yesterday. That's new cases PER DAY. No other country on the face of the earth had more than 33,000.

And yes, another 3,401 dead Americans. Every other country is under 1,000/day. This is not a coincidence.

Kind of alarming.

**Kidlicious** · December 24, 2020, 11:51

Fcking science deniers.

"California doctor fired after denouncing state lockdowns in letter

By Emma Colton
December 23, 2020 - 2:38 PM

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A California doctor was fired after he questioned the effectiveness of coronavirus lockdowns in his state.

"All the data that I am aware of, looking at children and the virus, shows that it’s safe" to reopen schools, Dr. Michael Deboisblanc told Fox News. "There are many other states now that have months of track records showing that it’s safe for their kids to go back to school. And the state of California and the county is just not making that possible."

"These are restaurants that are just trying to survive and keep their doors open," he added. "It’s been very difficult for them."

Deboisblanc was fired from his position as trauma medical director for John Muir Health after he sent a letter to Contra Costa County health officials saying officials should end a stay-at-home order back in May.

"Personally, I think it's time," he said this spring of ending lockdowns. "I think, originally, this was put in place to flatten the curve and to make sure hospitals have the resources to take care of COVID patients. We have the current resources to do that, and our other community health is suffering."

The hospital said of his firing: "The doctor is employed through an outside contract. And after careful consideration, John Muir Health is not continuing with Dr. Deboisblanc in that position."

However, Deboisblanc praised the facility and his former colleagues, saying they have done excellent work for their patients during the pandemic."

**-Jrabbit** · December 24, 2020, 12:12

He's a trauma doctor who worked for a private company and paid the price for his decision to get into political commentary. He may be knowledgeable, but making public statements on opening schools and the economy was not part of his gig. I'm sure every good republican recognizes the right of John Muir Health to terminate his contract.

**Kidlicious** · December 24, 2020, 13:01

Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post

He's a trauma doctor who worked for a private company and paid the price for his decision to get into political commentary. He may be knowledgeable, but making public statements on opening schools and the economy was not part of his gig. I'm sure every good republican recognizes the right of John Muir Health to terminate his contract.

I'm sure what happened is a bunch of aasholes called and asked them why they had a murderer working for them. They might have even gotten threats. So they cowardly fired him. We are all worse off now and the moronic lockdown continues.

**Kidlicious** · December 24, 2020, 13:41

The GOP blocked standalone bill to give $2000 to every American. Huge mistake.

**-Jrabbit** · December 24, 2020, 14:19

Finally! A major evangelical Christian megachurch leader admits that keeping parishioners healthy and alive is more important than holding superspreader live services in defiance of state and local guidelines.

Popular Evangelical Pastor: Coronavirus Rules Aren’t Oppressing Christians

“I don’t want to be a superspreader,” says Rick Warren, pastor of California’s giant Saddleback Church.

By Carol Kuruvilla

Evangelical pastors in California have been fighting the state’s COVID-19 restrictions on houses of worship from the earliest months of the coronavirus pandemic. These pastors ― and the conservative law firms defending them ― have largely framed the debate as a matter of religious freedom, claiming that the government is discriminating against churches.

Pastor Rick Warren, founder of Saddleback Church, based in Orange County, appears to be taking a different approach.

In an interview with the Christian publication Relevant Magazine published Monday, the evangelical megachurch pastor and popular author suggested that COVID-19 restrictions are about protecting parishioners’ health.

“A lot of churches are nervous about the religious freedom aspect. They don’t want to wear masks. They don’t want to meet outdoors,” Warren said.

Warren pointed out that many sites of large public gatherings ― such as theaters, football games and concerts ― are also facing restrictions. Regal Cinemas had shuttered hundreds of theaters, and Disney has let go of thousands of employees, he said.

“We’re not being discriminated against. This is a safety issue,” he said.

HuffPost reached out to Saddleback Church for comment, but a spokesperson said Warren would be unable to respond this week.

Rick Warren is the pastor of Saddleback Church, a Southern Baptist-affiliated megachurch based in Orange County, California.

Most Americans (54%) don’t want religious organizations to be exempted from the government’s COVID-19 restrictions, according to a Public Religion Research survey published last week. White evangelical Protestants were by far the religious group most likely to say the opposite ― that churches should be able to hold in-person services even when the government has issued orders restricting social gatherings (75%).

Though some factions of American evangelicalism have urged fellow believers to follow the advice of public health experts, conservative Christian activists have been at the forefront of the movement to have churches reopen without government oversight, claiming that government interference in worship is a violation of their religious liberty. These activists have also claimed that churches are being unfairly discriminated against, since secular businesses such as grocery stores and laundromats have been allowed to remain open. The Supreme Court, with its newly solidified conservative majority, recently threw its weight behind this argument ― even though health experts say comparing churches to grocery stores is misleading.

The pandemic has exposed a “fundamental weakness in the Church,” Warren told Relevant Magazine.

“Most churches only have one purpose: worship. And if you take worship away, you’ve got nothing,” he said. “They’re in a hurry to get back to worship because that’s all they’ve got.”

Saddleback Church has other purposes, he said ― such as ministry and discipleship. The church has scaled up its food pantry efforts and claims to now have one of Orange County’s largest free grocery distribution programs. Saddleback Church has also created thousands of new online “small groups” ― small fellowships of three or more people who study the Bible together. Warren claims that since March his church has welcomed more than 16,000 new converts, most of whom were drawn in by his members’ “one-on-one evangelizing.”

Volunteers Anh (left) and sister Tomi Tonnu load a car with food on Oct. 14 as part of Saddleback Church’s drive-thru food distributions to families in need.

During the first 10 weeks of 2020, Saddleback Church, a Southern Baptist-affiliated megachurch, drew an average of 30,000 people to its multiple campuses for weekend services. The evangelical church held Easter services online. In June, about the time that dozens of California pastors pledged to reopen their churches regardless of public health guidelines, Warren announced that his church would “be patient and wait for better conditions.”

As of Wednesday, Saddleback’s campuses appear to have adopted various strategies for Christmas ― streaming services online, organizing “drive-in” celebrations and having in-person gatherings outside, requiring attendees to register in advance, stay socially distanced and wear face coverings.

Dancers perform Dec. 13 for visitors touring the “Light of the World: Christmas Lights” drive-thru experience at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California.

Warren told Relevant Magazine that as a pastor, he is tasked with caring for his flock the way a shepherd cares for his sheep.

“Some churches are willing to gamble the health of their people. I’m not,” Warren said, adding, “I don’t want to be a superspreader. I’m not doing this out of fear; I’m doing this out of love. You wear a mask for love [of] your neighbors, yourself.”

**Kidlicious** · December 24, 2020, 14:50

At least he's the only one then.

**Kidlicious** · December 24, 2020, 18:08

Dp

**Uncle Sparky** · December 24, 2020, 19:47

More Americans die of COVID-19 as Donald Trump golfs. Americans go hungry at Christmas because Donald Trump won't sign relief package at his exclusive golf course. How didn't this man get a huge majority of the votes? Isn't he the kind of leader America needs?

**Proteus_MST** · December 24, 2020, 19:55

Originally posted by Uncle Sparky View Post

... How didn't this man get a huge majority of the votes? Isn't he the kind of leader America needs?

It is because of something that Trump already predicted during his election 2016:

Some day (with me as PotUS) you will be tired of so much winning.

Obviously, in 2020 this prediction came true and the vast majority of voters was too tired of all the winning during the 3 years before

**-Jrabbit** · December 26, 2020, 19:30

COVID-19 totals for the USA at end of Christmas Day 2020:

337,066 -- total dead
19,111,336 -- known cases

So that's roughly the equivalent of every resident of Santa Ana CA or Riverside CA dead, even though only 5.78% of Americans are documented as infected.

**Kidlicious** · December 27, 2020, 11:48

81% admit to not obeying lockdown during Christmas

**giblets** · December 27, 2020, 13:39

Most people have Christmas off, what is there to lock down?

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