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  • Again, where is all the evidence of fraud... neither one of your stories presents any at all.
    Where as on the other hand...
    The Trump administration’s own top cybersecurity official, election officials from both parties in all 50 states and international observers have affirmed that the Nov. 3 contest was secure and not hampered by widespread irregularities or fraud.
    You seem to keep forgetting that...
    You also seem to be forgetting that Trumps lawyers are completely failing to prove any significant fraud happened.

    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • Preponderance of evidence doesn’t mean what you think it means. It means on balance of probabilities. Trump and co are nowhere near that standard.

      Moreover, the burden is on the claimant to demonstrate. It’s not about who provides better evidence. The defence need provide nothing if the claims are absurd.
      Last edited by Dauphin; November 20, 2020, 19:41.
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      • Preponderance of evidence must be the new anthem of the alt right media...
        And in reality, the preponderance of evidence supports the NO FRAUD side of the story.
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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        • Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
          Preponderance of evidence doesn’t mean what you think it means. It means on balance of probabilities. Trump and co are nowhere near that standard.

          Moreover, the burden is on the claimant to demonstrate. It’s not about who provides better evidence. The defence need provide nothing if the claims are absurd.
          I never said that it didn't mean a balance of probabilities. I said that the accused should make every effort to keep up appearances and defend themselves with evidence.

          Trump has witnesses that are willing to testify regarding Dominion and the way they perpetrated fraud. He has statistical evidence that will be presented and explained by an expert witness. That's circumstantial but makes a big difference when the standard or proof is preponderance of evidence. We also don't know what other evidence Trump has as it isn't proper for them to present everything at this time.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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          • Originally posted by Ming View Post
            Preponderance of evidence must be the new anthem of the alt right media...
            And in reality, the preponderance of evidence supports the NO FRAUD side of the story.
            Wrong. It's not a criminal trial. Therefore the standard of proof is not beyond a reasonable doubt.
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • But your side seems a little light on ANY EVIDENCE at all.
              And yeah, it's not a "criminal trial"... DUH
              But you also seem to be forgetting that Trump is having case after case THROWN OUT...

              On the other hand...
              The Trump administration’s own top cybersecurity official, election officials from both parties in all 50 states and international observers have affirmed that the Nov. 3 contest was secure and not hampered by widespread irregularities or fraud.

              Before you can have a "standard of proof" you actually have to have some in the first place
              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • You're just denying evidence, again. Whistleblowers etc are evidence.

                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • Obviously not very good evidence based on the courts...
                  And you are denying actual "evidence" as well...
                  The Trump administration’s own top cybersecurity official, election officials from both parties in all 50 states and international observers have affirmed that the Nov. 3 contest was secure and not hampered by widespread irregularities or fraud.
                  Keep on Civin'
                  RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • Originally posted by Ming View Post
                    Obviously not very good evidence based on the courts...
                    And you are denying actual "evidence" as well...
                    The Trump administration’s own top cybersecurity official, election officials from both parties in all 50 states and international observers have affirmed that the Nov. 3 contest was secure and not hampered by widespread irregularities or fraud.
                    Corrupt deep state guy. So what? That counts for nothing. Do you think a lawyer is going to bring that up in court?

                    And some activist judge in MI doesn't mean anything.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                    • What do you think that guy is going to say in court Ming?
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • The electors meet on December 14th. Everything has to play out before then. Their goal is to convince the electors not to vote for Biden. The electors are the jury.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • giblets
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                          Kid, the electors are chosen by the party that wins the state. There is no way Democratic electors are going to vote for Trump.

                      • We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • Technically Smartmatic didn't sell Sequoia to Dominion, they sold it to the CEO and private investors and more than 2 years later they sold it to Dominion. Of course that really isn't relevant to the question of linkage, Dominion did buy what belonged to Smartmatic 2 1/2 years earlier.

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                          • Ted Striker
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                            Please don't tell me you're buying into this too Berzerker. I hope you are at least trying to be neutral.

                          • Kidlicious
                            Kidlicious commented
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                            Are you neutral Ted Striker?

                          • Berzerker
                            Berzerker commented
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                            I just try to follow the facts

                        • Kid...things are lookin up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7wVsxvEkCg
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                          • The preponderance of the evidence proves that Kid is an idiot.
                            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

                            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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                            • Uncle Sparky
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                              There is a word for that - Kidiot.

                            • Dauphin
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                              I would have quoted Rex Tillerson.
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