A Day Without Sharia

[kentonio]

Targeting the morale of INDUSTRIAL WORKERS is not the same as trying to maximize civilian body count without any strategic military benefit!

Where did 'maximize civilian body count without any strategic military benefit' come from? There was always a strategic benefit. Making the German civilian population tire of the cost of war and more likely to capitulate or stop supporting the nazi regime.

I think you should read the directive again..

"..that the primary objective of your operations should be focused on the morale of the enemy civil population and in particular the industrial workers"

'And in particular' does not mean 'exclusively'. The directive told allied crews to bomb civilian populations. They had no way of discriminated from the air which civilians they were bombing, and they showed exactly how much that mattered with the firebombings of entire cities like Hamburg, Dresden and Tokyo.

If you need to see something even more clear, here's a British Air Staff paper from 1941..

"The ultimate aim of an attack on a town area is to break the morale of the population which occupies it. To ensure this, we must achieve two things: first, we must make the town physically uninhabitable and, secondly, we must make the people conscious of constant personal danger. The immediate aim, is therefore, twofold, namely, to produce (i) destruction and (ii) fear of death"

I really don't think it gets any more clear than that what they were trying to achieve.

[Kidlicious]

Acts of Terror by IS (and others) try to lower the morals of the western population and raise the morals of IS fighters ... th latter of which has a lot of military benefit, considering that it potentially keeps IS soldiers from defecting and makes them fight harder

Of course. That's how they are able to recruit. That's why 9-11 was a major blow to western civilization and why we must prevent another attack like that at all costs.

[Proteus_MST]

Of course. That's how they are able to recruit. That's why 9-11 was a major blow to western civilization and why we must prevent another attack like that at all costs.

So, according to your criterion, they are equivalent to acts of terror commited in WW2, like the firebombing of Hamburg and Dresden, as they both use the terror against civilians for strategic military benefit

[rah]

You do realize the the terrorIsts plan to kill every single non-Muslim, don't? They even claim that Jesus is going to do it.

Which of course has nothing to do with what I asked.

The A-bomb drops were an act of terrorism against the Japanese population. Are you claiming they weren't?

[Berzerker]

This is based on your interpretation that Christians should just let the entire world be ruled by evil people.

Did Jesus advocate rebellion? Did he tell his followers to become Caesar? Jesus was executed by evil people, he did not challenge their rule.

Christians have turned the prophet of peace into a conqueror, Muslims didn't do that to Muhammad.

[Aeson]

I made it through today with barely any Sharia at all. I did see a woman at the bus terminal with a head scarf type thingie though. Does it count?

[Proteus_MST]

I made it through today with barely any Sharia at all. I did see a woman at the bus terminal with a head scarf type thingie though. Does it count?

Yes, of course ... even if they are worn by non muslim women ... those obviously are secret muslim/sharia fans if they wear a headscarf

[Kidlicious]

Did Jesus advocate rebellion? Did he tell his followers to become Caesar? Jesus was executed by evil people, he did not challenge their rule.

Christians have turned the prophet of peace into a conqueror, Muslims didn't do that to Muhammad.

1) Christ was punished for our sins. That is His divine plan for the salvation of human beings.

He told His disciples to take up their cross, but that doesn't necessarily mean to be crucified. In fact it only means that for relatively few Christians.

2) America is not the Roman Empire. It is a democracy created by men who believed strongly in the morality that Christ taught.

3) If you read the Bible, Christ is actually a great conqueror, but as Paul said, we are more than conquerors.

[Kidlicious]

I made it through today with barely any Sharia at all. I did see a woman at the bus terminal with a head scarf type thingie though. Does it count?

I'm trying to figure out which people didn't make it through the day without Sharia in this story.

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/240434026-story

[Kidlicious]

So, according to your criterion, they are equivalent to acts of terror commited in WW2, like the firebombing of Hamburg and Dresden, as they both use the terror against civilians for strategic military benefit

Horrible things happened during WW2. They are something different though. Did the Allies openly take credit for their crimes in order to make themselves look especially horrible like the terrorists do? Not even Hitler did did. If he did IDK. IDK if Stalin did.

[Berzerker]

1) Christ was punished for our sins. That is His divine plan for the salvation of human beings.

He told His disciples to take up their cross, but that doesn't necessarily mean to be crucified. In fact it only means that for relatively few Christians.

2) America is not the Roman Empire. It is a democracy created by men who believed strongly in the morality that Christ taught.

3) If you read the Bible, Christ is actually a great conqueror, but as Paul said, we are more than conquerors.

The Romans told Christians to pledge their loyalty to Rome and its gods, you tell Christian children to pledge their loyalty to Congress and its god.

In what ways did Christ's teachings become law? It wasn't too long before their generation that Christians were sacrificing "witches" to their god.

[Kidlicious]

The Romans told Christians to pledge their loyalty to Rome and its gods,

The Bible teaches loyalty to the state. It doesn't teach rebellion. The problem is that Rome demanded more than allegiance. It demanded worship.

you tell Christian children to pledge their loyalty to Congress and its god.

Pledging loyalty to someone else's god is worship. The Pledge is not worshipping someone else's god. It's not worship at all. It's just pledging loyalty.

In what ways did Christ's teachings become law?

Read Common Sense by Thomas Paine

It wasn't too long before their generation that Christians were sacrificing "witches" to their god.

What does that have to do with it?

[kentonio]

Horrible things happened during WW2. They are something different though. Did the Allies openly take credit for their crimes in order to make themselves look especially horrible like the terrorists do? Not even Hitler did did. If he did IDK. IDK if Stalin did.

Yes of course they did, in all three cases. The Allies openly sent the message that 'if you continue this war, we will destroy your homes, and kill you and your families'. Of course for a person living in a German city at risk of having their children burned to death, there was nothing they personally could do to stop the war, but the calculation was being made that if enough innocent people felt threatened then the mass effect of that could turn the war. For most terrorist groups the calculation is exactly the same, if enough people are terrified by their actions, then they'll submit to the political goals of that group.

That doesn't mean that the Allies are directly morally equivilent to ISIS of course, that would be a stupid and childish simplistic comparison. Ignoring that both use(d) terror to try and achieve their goals though is simply revisionist.

[Kidlicious]

Of course, Germany is not living under Sharia, only Sharia lite, by their own choice.

[Ming]

Yet another silly ass response from Kid... par for the course since he's been proven wrong in almost everything he has said.