KKK announces victory parade in North Carolina

[SlowwHand]

It's not racist to think that people blocking highways, ambulances, burning and other is disgusting behavior.
It's not their color that's disgusting, it's their actions.
If that offends you, tough.

[Berzerker]

BLM and the KKK are obnoxious political activist groups, the fact they're not equally offensive doesn't mean its racist to use them in a discussion about free speech and its limits

[PLATO]

What a crock of Da**** this thread has become. It is sad the extent that one idiot will go to to try and find some non existent racism just to try to advance a cause.


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[Ming]

It's his opinion, and he is welcome to it. But I guess he thinks all white people are racist

[Uncle Sparky]

[kentonio]

Do they always start with having white people on the same side as "bad" first, followed by putting black people on the same side as "bad"?

Crap test

So basically it returned a result you didn't like?

[Jon Miller]

I agree that (almost) all (white) people are at least a little bit racist.

I also support Dashi's position, I think.

Finally, pointing out that on a few occasions people at a BLM protest/etc made some anti-'white' or anti-police statements is once more making a false equivalence with the KKK. The KKK exists to put down 'blacks'. That is it's purpose of being. The hateful expressions from the KKK are them expressing their reason for being in the KKK. The hateful expressions from BLM protests are some protestors going beyond the platform and purpose of BLM to something new while still under the banner of BLM.

Just off the top of my head, a more accurate equivalence could possibly be made between BLM and Daughters of the American Revolution. The latter has been a very racist organization (Eleanor Roosevelt renounced her membership in protest) even though that was not it's platform/purpose. I personally do not think that BLM is anti-'white' or anti-police, but understand that some people see it differently.

JM

[giblets]

So basically it returned a result you didn't like?

It gives the result it was designed to give

[Ben Kenobi]

BLM has crossed the line over to racism, IMO when they start shouting down people for stating that All Lives Matter. If you're calling people 'racist' for affirming the humanity of everyone then you're not part of the solution. You're part of the problem.

[kentonio]

It gives the result it was designed to give

That's interesting, because I've seen it give various results that align pretty closely to the result you'd expect given each persons personal interactions/familiarity with people of other races. Whether or not people want to believe it, or just pretend its all some liberal setup of course, is completely up to them.

[kentonio]

BLM has crossed the line over to racism, IMO when they start shouting down people for stating that All Lives Matter. If you're calling people 'racist' for affirming the humanity of everyone then you're not part of the solution. You're part of the problem.

If you have a room full of well fed people and one starving one, and that person asks for some food because their life matters, if your immediate response is 'ALL our lives matter!' (while continuing to eat all the food and not give any to them) then you're a **** quite frankly.

Black people are grossly over-represented in police stops, searches and unjustified killings, so when they campaign for some protection they're doing it because it feels to them like many white people don't think their lives have any real worth. It's a cry for people to wake up and realize that real human lives are being lost in a system where the colour of your skin can decide whether you get to live or die each day.

So yes, if your only response to BLM is a smug, self satisfied 'All lives matter' then you're either a moron or a racist. In your case, obviously those options are not mutually exclusive.

[giblets]

That's interesting, because I've seen it give various results that align pretty closely to the result you'd expect given each persons personal interactions/familiarity with people of other races. Whether or not people want to believe it, or just pretend its all some liberal setup of course, is completely up to them.

That doesn't prove the results aren't biased in a specific direction

[Dauphin]

If you have a room full of well fed people and one starving one, and that person asks for some food because their life matters, if your immediate response is 'ALL our lives matter!' (while continuing to eat all the food and not give any to them) then you're a **** quite frankly.

You used this before, but it is more apt to say:

If you have a group of people walking through a checkpoint to a football stadium, and the security guard smashes someone's face in, and they say "Why the **** did you smash my face in?", and your immediate response is 'Quit whining about YOUR face, ALL our faces matter!' (while not saying a word to the security officer) then you're a **** quite frankly.

[kentonio]

I prefer the food one purely because the discrimination against blacks isn't a single one off incident, it's a long term process of discrimination.

[Aeson]

In some cases the "X lives matter" response is justified, such as after chants of "pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon" and "what do we want, dead cops". "Blue/All lives matter too" points out the very real problem with such chants.

Ben is wrong to say BLM is racist though, as it's only a subset who are.