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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Yawn. Constitution protects the rights of private educators to hire their own staff. Next you'll be trying to strip accreditation of the independent schools because apparently there's something wrong with freedom of association. Just like is happening in BC with Trinity Western.
    To hell with you. I am so tired of your ****. The constitution isn't something you have even read. You are a ****ing moron in every sense and I am losing my cool again.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      Well, then. Thank you for confirming my point, exactly - Giancarlo. This is my point. It's not about adoption. It's not about education. It's not even about discrimination. It's about, as Kentonio once said, marvelously -"Curbstomping bigots".

      Good luck with that Giancarlo. What's next? Forcing Christians to where yellow crosses?
      Wrong again, asshat. When these schools take public funding they are subject to public laws. You are a nutcase and at this point you should be permanently banned.

      Also, look up what libel means. You have completely crossed that line.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • The court has ruled countless times against religious institutions, including striking down attempts to take away the woman's right to choose. But you being the selective idiot you are, you don't see that. You just cherrypick.
        Interesting. After stating that the law is the law, you're arguing now that Hosanna-Tabor was wrongly decided? How so, Giancarlo?
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        • I have heard enough of this **** and demand something be done. Ben has now crossed a line that could result in legal repercussions.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • When these schools take public funding they are subject to public laws
            Then why are you arguing to strip them of accreditation if they go private?
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            • Hey you guise it's AAHZ here (that's my name lol!)

              I just want to put a poast in this spot to say that there is some fine, A1 class trolling in this thrade. I even chuckled a few times. So just wanted to say thanks!

              OK, please continue the flame-war nao.
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                Interesting. After stating that the law is the law, you're arguing now that Hosanna-Tabor was wrongly decided? How so, Giancarlo?
                And the stooge decides to bring up one case that didn't even set any form of precedent, over actual rulings like the one gutting DOMA and striking down "prolife" (anti women) attempts to illegalize adoption.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  Then why are you arguing to strip them of accreditation if they go private?
                  Because they still offer a public service and are subject to public laws. The same way a business in the 1960s could no longer prevent blacks from entering.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • Over five decades ago we had someone warn us about the theocracy Ben is advocating.



                    Listen to it and LEARN.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • that didn't even set any form of precedent,
                      Funny that. Hosanna-Tabor, wrongly decided, no precedent.

                      Oberfell - stare decisis. Hosanna-Tabor was 9-0 against the Obama administration, fwiw.

                      How was it wrongly decided?
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                      • Over five decades ago we had someone warn us about the theocracy Ben is advocating.
                        Right. When an atheist says that his worldview is going to inform his policy, nobody bats an eye. I disagree, vehemently, with Kennedy. I believe that America was founded as a Christian nation, and that it would be sustained by the Christian faith. I can cite many, many of the founding fathers on this.

                        If the disagreement is between Kennedy and Washington, I know who's side I'm on.
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                        • Because they still offer a public service and are subject to public laws. The same way a business in the 1960s could no longer prevent blacks from entering.
                          They aren't barring homosexual men and women from attending. They are barring them from teaching. The goal of a Catholic school is to teach the Catholic faith. Would you argue that the LGBT whatever club had to have a Catholic on their board?
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                          • Well noone is going to "force" any church to do something that it doesn't want to do.
                            OTOH everyone is asked to respect the laws of the land that are a culmination of values.

                            People decide to live together in societies and to be governed by laws that steam from the morality of said era.

                            If you want a culmination of state and church it's there and it's called Iran (or Turkey more and more).

                            The separation of church and state ALSO protects the church.

                            But all people are under the protection of their common values and laws. And noone is above those

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                            • Your appeal to the divine is very weak.

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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                They aren't barring homosexual men and women from attending. They are barring them from teaching. The goal of a Catholic school is to teach the Catholic faith. Would you argue that the LGBT whatever club had to have a Catholic on their board?
                                They are barring them from attending. Yoy are a lunatic. You should be banned from this site.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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