Trump vs Hillary

[Sava]

Also, Oerdin, there's nothing wrong with being unemployed, a drug addict, or mentally ill.

However, your racism (and misogyny, for that matter) is a deep character flaw. One that you can't escape, no matter how much you want to try to drag others through the mud.

You pathetic imbecile.

[Dinner]

Ahh, yes, your imaginary racism. **** off. Oh, and, yes, a decade plus of being an unemployed lay about sure as hell does show a character flaw.

[Kidlicious]

I just thought of something. If Sanders wins both Hillary and Trump supporters will feel the Bern.

[Sava]

Ahh, yes, your imaginary racism.

Do you read your own posts?

[Sava]

a decade plus of being an unemployed lay about sure as hell does show a character flaw.

nope

but the fact that you think so reveals more about you

and not in a good way

you are trash

not worth dog****

[Sava]

crap, didn't listen to my own advice

[Dinner]

We need a fantasy rep button.

[Elok]

Bernie would be an unambiguously better candidate than Hillary at this point. Yes, he's a godless (self-identified, really more social democrat) socialist Jew, but he still doesn't have the deep reservoir of hate that Hillary has accumulated. He's also distinctly more relatable, could easily steal a large number of votes from Trump due to his anti-corporate little-guy cred, and even aside from electability just seems like the more likely candidate to fight for significant change. His economic policies may be utopian, impractical, or what-have-you, but they ain't half as stupid or crazy as Trump's, to the extent that Trump can be said to have a policy at all. And he would almost certainly be willing to compromise and negotiate, which is way more than you can say for Trump.

[Ben Kenobi]

[Aeson]

Trump vs Sanders would be the best possible ticket ... especially if early on Bernie's actual big C Communism ties in the past becomes a big issue. Then you have a Fascist vs Communist race ... and a centrist 3rd party might just happen.

[Aeson]

... or we'd get a Fascist or a Communist ...

[Lorizael]

Bernie would be an unambiguously better candidate than Hillary at this point. Yes, he's a godless (self-identified, really more social democrat) socialist Jew, but he still doesn't have the deep reservoir of hate that Hillary has accumulated. He's also distinctly more relatable, could easily steal a large number of votes from Trump due to his anti-corporate little-guy cred, and even aside from electability just seems like the more likely candidate to fight for significant change. His economic policies may be utopian, impractical, or what-have-you, but they ain't half as stupid or crazy as Trump's, to the extent that Trump can be said to have a policy at all. And he would almost certainly be willing to compromise and negotiate, which is way more than you can say for Trump.

I dunno. Bernie seems more like an angry uncle than the leader of the free world. Yes, yes, Uncle, we agree that it's terrible that children are starving in China, but can we please just have Thanksgiving dinner without awkward, barely restrained political conversations?

[Elok]

I admit that I haven't been following Sanders all that closely--never listened to a speech, for example, only read summaries of his positions. However, my past several jobs have all involved me coming face-to-face with the decline of American society. First it was deeply troubled poor kids flopping their way through a school system utterly incapable of helping them. Then it was borderline-crazy homeless people and recently released ex-cons applying for benefits from a system so overloaded that the application process appears deliberately designed to arbitrarily exclude random applicants from consideration. Now I work in a pharmacy with many lower-class customers. We sell more Norco--hydrocodone/acetaminophen--than any two other drugs combined. We dispense a thousand pills a day of the most popular strength alone. Add in all the other scary crap and a third of our overall output is controlled meds.

This is not what a healthy society looks like. And nobody's addressing the real problems. If Bernie's angry, well, there's a lot to be angry about.

[pchang]

Bernie has not shown a willingness to compromise so far. Otoh, we've seen Trump compromise a lot ( morals, ethics, etc.).

[Lorizael]

I admit that I haven't been following Sanders all that closely--never listened to a speech, for example, only read summaries of his positions. However, my past several jobs have all involved me coming face-to-face with the decline of American society. First it was deeply troubled poor kids flopping their way through a school system utterly incapable of helping them. Then it was borderline-crazy homeless people and recently released ex-cons applying for benefits from a system so overloaded that the application process appears deliberately designed to arbitrarily exclude random applicants from consideration. Now I work in a pharmacy with many lower-class customers. We sell more Norco--hydrocodone/acetaminophen--than any two other drugs combined. We dispense a thousand pills a day of the most popular strength alone. Add in all the other scary crap and a third of our overall output is controlled meds.

This is not what a healthy society looks like. And nobody's addressing the real problems. If Bernie's angry, well, there's a lot to be angry about.

There's a lot to be angry about, but I am extremely skeptical that (a) we know how to fix what's wrong and/or (b) we're actually going to fix what's wrong. So I take solace in the fact that, broadly, civilization has been trending upwards for quite awhile now, even if it's doing so slowly and there's still a lot that's ****ty.