Supreme Court rules in favor of public legislative prayers

[molly bloom]

As a historian, I take great offense at the attempt to eradicate prayer from public meetings. Historically there's absolutely zero justification or precedence for it's removal. I would argue it's part of American culture.

Wouldja just change your nom de tw@ttery to Mo Ron now, please ?

Benjamin Franklin delivered this famous speech, asking that the Convention begin each day's session with prayers, at a particularly contentious period, when it appeared that the Convention might break up over its failure to resolve the dispute between the large and small states over representation in the new government. The eighty one year old Franklin asserted that "the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this Truth--that God governs in the Affairs of Men." "I also believe," Franklin continued, that "without his concurring Aid, we shall succeed in this political Building no better than the Builders of Babel."

Franklin's motion failed, ostensibly because the Convention had no funds to pay local clergymen to act as chaplains.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06.html

In notes for his June 8, 1789, speech introducing the Bill of Rights, Madison indicated his opposition to a "national" religion. Most Americans agreed that the federal government must not pick out one religion and give it exclusive financial and legal support.

The Constitution :

When the Constitution was submitted to the American public, "many pious people" complained that the document had slighted God, for it contained "no recognition of his mercies to us . . . or even of his existence."

[MrFun]

May I just ask why you call yourself a Christian when you say things like this, as if Christians are something other than you? Or do you beat your chest repeating "freedom of religion" like a mantra?

It was a slip-up. I should have said Tealiban Christians to specify, rather than all Christians. I did not mean to separate myself from the broader group that I belong in.

[regexcellent]

Tealiban Christians?

[Sava]

May I just ask why you call yourself a Christian when you say things like this, as if Christians are something other than you? Or do you beat your chest repeating "freedom of religion" like a mantra?

Stop arguing bull**** semantics. In ten minutes I could find an example of every poster doing it. Removing oneself from the equation and thinking with an objective id is a very valuable thing. And frankly, if you can't do it, there's a hard cap on how smart a person you are.

[MrFun]

Tealiban Christians?

Yes. They want to have our country's laws replaced with laws based on their interpretation of the Bible, much as Taliban Muslims in countries they live in, want to replace laws with laws based on their interpretation of the Quran.

[AAAAAAAAH!]

If you didn't call tehm the "Tealiban" I never would have guessed you don't like them.

[Sava]

Tea Bagger wasn't good enough, apparently.

[regexcellent]

MrFun, this is (part of) why no-one takes you seriously.

Hey, Sava, you're a DEMONRAT!

[Sava]

gasp!

[Sava]

btw, Texas suspends student for not standing during pledge

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Community-members-sound-off-after-school-punishes-boy-for-refusing-to-stand-for-Pledge-of-Allegiance--258546821.html

[Kidlicious]

MrFun is actually starting to amuse me.

[Ben Kenobi]

If you didn't call tehm the "Tealiban" I never would have guessed you don't like them.

S'truth.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, Even if you taught math, I think you would find a way to distort it.

I've taught Math before. I've been a biology tutor too. My students did well; one of my biology students jumped all the way from about 30 percent to an A-.

If you're going to comment on my abilities as a teacher, perhaps you should sit in on one of my classes first, eh?

[Ben Kenobi]

It was a slip-up.

Like when you called black people N*****, and then claimed you were telling a joke?

Is your favourite comedian Kramer?

[Pax]

I've taught Math before. I've been a biology tutor too. My students did well; one of my biology students jumped all the way from about 30 percent to an A-.

If you're going to comment on my abilities as a teacher, perhaps you should sit in on one of my classes first, eh?

I'm commenting on your ability to distort facts which is on the level of evil genius.