VW actually wants to unionize its American factory; Republicans freak out.

[Dinner]

States by black unemployment rates:



Only two are southern - MS and NC. Four are right to work, but only two are right to work and southern. Two are northern, (Indiana and Michigan), with recent right to work laws.

Given that half of all states are right to work, right to work states are less likely to be pits of black unemployment in America.

I'm sure both black people in Minnesota sympathize with your position.

[Felch]

Unsurprisingly, 5 minutes of googling showed how much of a gross misrepresentation that is.

Don't you dare share a link with us showing what you mean by this. That might actually be a meaningful contribution to the thread.

[Hauldren Collider]

I feel the "right to work state" will be the new "slave state" in the next civil war.

wut

[Ben Kenobi]

Don't you dare share a link with us showing what you mean by this. That might actually be a meaningful contribution to the thread.

Ouch.

[onodera]

wut

The feds will demand social security on the federal level, the rtw states will refuse, saying the employers are free to hire, fire and set any pay or other benefits they want, bam, a civil war.

[MrFun]

I'm beginning to think you don't know what the term "dog-whistle politics" actually means in spite of the fact that you keep using it.

Here's what it means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics

I think "right to work" is a useful, sanitized phrase used by Republicans to appeal to working class and middle class voters when they press for regressive laws regarding workers' rights, wages, benefits, and so on.

[MrFun]

Another example of a dog whistle phrase is "states' rights."

In the past and even today, it's often white supremacists who have been so fond of "states' rights" as a means to their end (racial segregation, suppression of voters' rights, racial discrimination in employment, so on).

[giblets]

Here's what it means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics

I think "right to work" is a useful, sanitized phrase used by Republicans to appeal to working class and middle class voters when they press for regressive laws regarding workers' rights, wages, benefits, and so on.

You didn't read the article then because "dog whistle politics" doesn't simply mean "slapping a good-sounding name onto something for the sake of political spin".

Another example of a dog whistle phrase is "states' rights."

In the past and even today, it's often white supremacists who have been so fond of "states' rights" as a means to their end (racial segregation, suppression of voters' rights, racial discrimination in employment, so on).

That's only a dog whistle if politicians who talk about "states' rights" are trying to exploit racism for political gain without explicitly endorsing racism.

[Ben Kenobi]

I think "right to work" is a useful, sanitized phrase used by Republicans to appeal to working class and middle class voters when they press for regressive laws regarding workers' rights, wages, benefits, and so on.

Which is why working class wages go up under right to work?

[Aeson]

It doesn't have to be about racism to be dog-whistle politics. "Pro Choice" is dog whistle politics as well.

[MrFun]

That's only a dog whistle if politicians who talk about "states' rights" are trying to exploit racism for political gain without explicitly endorsing racism.

And that's the example I used; racism. Duh.

Sorry if you thought that I was claiming that "states' rights" can ONLY be used in the context of racism.

[MrFun]

It doesn't have to be about racism to be dog-whistle politics. "Pro Choice" is dog whistle politics as well.

Exactly - explain to gribbler the idea of different contexts for the same words.

[Aeson]

I'm not going to waste much time on it, since literally everything ever said by a politician is at least an attempt at dog-whistle politics.

[giblets]

And that's the example I used; racism. Duh.

Sorry if you thought that I was claiming that "states' rights" can ONLY be used in the context of racism.

I never thought that. I am miffed about how you think the term "dog-whistle politics" is applicable to "right-to-work" laws.

[regexcellent]

It's just another example of MrFun co-opting an idea he doesn't understand from left-wing articles, then repeating it like a trained parrot.