Community organiser in chief finding it hard to get by without dog in his life

[Ben Kenobi]

i wish everyone would ignore you too

I don't. Sava - I was friends with you for quite awhile.

You were the one who chose to board the haterwagon. I said - quite pointedly then as now - that you were my friend first and foremost. Even if you and I disagree (and we do and have), I don't have a litmus test.

I have friends who post Takei's latest every day without fail. Friends I've known for years and years and years, all sides of the spectrum.

I am not sorry that I said to you what I did... I spoke the truth. I liked you as a friend. For me that doesn't change quickly.

You change your mind, let me know. But I won't take back what I said, it was solid advice then as now.

[Aeson]

So far it's not looking good for the argument that 'black people are equally open-minded and tolerant of other races than white folks'.

The use of "than" with "equally" seems rather strange. As does the concept of insulting a race for their racism based on your feelings of racial superiority over them.

[DaShi]

Ben's definition of friend is quite loose.

[Colonâ„¢]

I am not drunk.

[Ben Kenobi]

The use of "than" with "equally" seems rather strange. As does the concept of insulting a race for their racism based on your feelings of racial superiority over them.

Please cite where I've ever stated that I believe that black people are an inferior race. I believe black people are just as capable as every other race in being successful in American society. I believe that lowering standards for black folks is ultimately harmful, especially in academics. Why? Because I believe that Black people can, with a certain amount of effort reach the exact same standard as everyone else.

[DaShi]

Ben, since you're going to hell anyway, suicide might be seen as redemptive at this point. Just throwing that out there.

[Egbert]

Summary for those who couldn't be bothered reading this thread:

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..............

I haven't read the thread either. Couldn't be bothered.

[Aeson]

To go with the last statement of Ben's that I quoted in a slightly different interpretation ...

Net had amoebic dysentery a couple years back, and after several trips to the doctor had to be hospitalized. She is ok, because we had the resources to pay for the medicines and hospital stay. Vergel (Net's younger brother who was going to college in Tag at the time) also had amoebic dysentery last month. He had to go to the hospital too, and after at least one relapse is doing well now. (To what extent the witch doctor is to thank for that I don't deem to know ...)

A couple years ago a neighbor's child had to be rushed to the hospital, also with amoebic dysentery. I drove them to the hospital (our multicab has served as the neighborhood ambulance on many occasions). They have some money in their family and could pay for the medicines and hospital stay. The child ended up doing ok.

There was a boy who lives nearby here who died recently. From what I've heard, it was amoebic dysentery. I never heard about it until after the fact. They couldn't afford to go to the hospital (at least not one of the good ones), and the child died. Because of that there is certainly one less Filipino than there should be ...

A good sanitary water system and enough income to pay for healthcare would certainly not be a bad change around here. The idea that such improvements could possibly be bad for the people here is just ridiculous. Even if that extra income were to allow them to buy a condom or birth control pills if they chose ... or something horrible thing like that!

[kentonio]

It definitely is racism. Just a type of racism you seem to think is good.

You need to go and learn what racism means, because that isn't it. Racism is the belief that a race is inherently superior or inferior to others. That is absolutely not necessary in this case.

I disagree. The world will be a lot better place when/if everyone just drops race as a concept altogether.

No ****, but wishing for a colour-blind utopia simply isn't realistic at this point. We're at least a century away from anything even close.

It's funny to argue with people who can't accept their racism is racism, but I disagree with you that it's good there are people who harbor racism without realizing it.

You're being simplistic. Sorry.

It's also easy to say when you want to speak the truth.

How much 'truth' do you think blacks hear when whites tell them that despite everything that has been done to them on account of their race, suddenly they have to forget it all and not use their vote to help bring support black leaders who are still woefully underrepresented nationally?

[kentonio]

DP

[DinoDoc]

How much 'truth' do you think blacks hear when whites tell them that despite everything that has been done to them on account of their race, suddenly they have to forget it all and not use their vote to help bring support black leaders who are still woefully underrepresented nationally?

I would probably tell them to vote for people that are actually able to do the job rather than simply voting for the black guy if they wish to advance the cause of racial equality and healing.

[kentonio]

I'm sure they'd be very interested in another lecture by another white guy.

[DinoDoc]

Paternalistic white guys like yourself don't seem to be helping matters any by viewing minorities and infantile tribesmen to be placated by a familiar face. I just thought a change in perspective was needed.

[Ben Kenobi]

Kentonio is black? Who knew?

[Ben Kenobi]

A good sanitary water system and enough income to pay for healthcare would certainly not be a bad change around here. The idea that such improvements could possibly be bad for the people here is just ridiculous. Even if that extra income were to allow them to buy a condom or birth control pills if they chose ... or something horrible thing like that!

I don't believe I said that I even disagree with your course of action. I don't, I agree with many things. There are things that can be changed and made better. Where we disagree is that some of the changes are not good.