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you and i must have eaten at different chik-fil-as.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Chik-fil-a magically became delicious to conservatives when it denounced gay-marriage. A similar thing happened with PapaJohn's and ACA.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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I remember being curious about the food because their "eat more chikin" Cow Calendars and billboards were pretty amusing. But it seemed like every time I drove by one (usually driving through the South getting my daughter to/from school), it would be a Sunday. Finally, time and opportunity came together several years back. I was distinctly underwhelmed.
The only two CFA franchises in the Chicago area are downtown, 25+ miles away from me, so boycotting is irrelevant; they're just (a) mediocre and (b) inconvenient.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov View PostIsn't Cathy being just as "self-righteous" as those boycotting? Using a public platform to give voice to his moral beliefs, which he sees as correct and superior?
And is it really more "self-righteous" to refuse to give money to a company that you know will donate money to organizations that champion agendas with which one disagrees?
A. the percentage of profits Cathy donated to "pro-family" causes was really pretty minuscule,
B. he donated at least as much, if not more, to non-controversial charities,
C. he'd been doing it for some time, and was still losing the fight,
D. the majority of the country agreed with him on this just ten years ago--hell, a good number of the congressmen cheering DOMA's downfall actually voted for the stupid thing much more recently than that, and
E. even if he were making a difference, the issue in question would affect perhaps 5% of this country's population, and in a relatively modest way compared to the crap-ton of other issues we've got,*
I viewed, and still view, the boycott as unnecessary, ill-considered and over-the-line. Given that most of the people I met who "participated" in the boycott rarely if ever ate there anyway, it seemed to be mainly an opportunity for acting smug.
If anything, going out of one's way to eat at Chick-fil-A just to "spite" those boycotting is more sheep-like behavior than that of the actual boycotters, as at least they can cite valid moral reasoning as above. And "I'm gonna eat there just to piss people off!" is just childish.
Consider an admittedly extreme example: the owner of the corner store is a neo-Nazi. He writes stupid Holocaust-denial articles for the local paper and gives money to the local Aryan Brotherhood (whose main activities are strictly-policed rallies where nothing much happens and paying for lawsuits). He is annoying and nobody likes him, but he causes no apparent harm. We all acknowledge his right to free speech, association, etc. But we all steadfastly refuse to patronize his establishment, with the result that he can either publicly repudiate his views or go broke and homeless.
We have not physically, directly forced him to change his views. The government did not become involved. But the effect is not significantly different from what would happen if we'd passed a law heavily fining him for Unlawful Opinion. Of course boycotts should not be outlawed, etc. But there's something hypocritical about "land-of-the-free, First Amendment, but we will hammer you bloody if you take your freedom too far." Granted, the man in my example was a jackass--as is Cathy--but I simply don't like the notion that it's our job to crack down on social heretics. I don't care for the farce of misbehaving-celebrity "apologies," either. Social/economic pressure is a powerful weapon, and like all such weapons it ought to be used with restraint.
*e.g. human trafficking, out-of-control government spending, climate change, poverty, education. And yes, the GOP are jackasses for dwelling on this issue for much the same reason, but they're not the issue at hand.
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Apologies for what, Elok? It was a fantastic post.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Not really. He's just rehashing his previous poor argument against boycotts. As I stated earlier, it's fundamentally flawed. There's no actual insight in there whatsoever. It's smug, self-serving nonsense. Which is why Ben likes it, of course.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Nevermind, Elok already Godwinized this thread. Big surprise.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Suit yourself, Da Shi.Last edited by Ben Kenobi; June 30, 2013, 20:45.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Please stop quoting my leg-humpers, BK. I mean, if he's doing something besides vomiting empty snark on something I posted, fine, but I don't come on here to read his rubbish.Last edited by Elok; June 30, 2013, 20:29.
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