School Shooting

[Felch]

To take this scenario as a starting point, how does making schools armed a good thing? Do you force teachers to have and use guns to defend the children? Or do you just go the straightforward route of getting security guards for every school?

Teachers who have carry permits would be allowed to carry on school grounds. Just the same way that all the other non gun free zones function. And crazy as it might sound, it sounds infinitely more crazy to have high profile, unprotected targets in a country brimming with heavily armed crazy people.

[Felch]

Now, the crazy uncle with a shed full of AKs and **** probably does have such a masturbatory fixation. And he is creepy and weird and unlikeable. But they usually aren't the folks who go around on these rampages anyway.

You're right about how creepy, weird, and unlikeable he is. AKs are ugly, heavy, and Russian. Real Americans stockpile ARs.

[Krill]

Teachers who have carry permits would be allowed to carry on school grounds. Just the same way that all the other non gun free zones function. And crazy as it might sound, it sounds infinitely more crazy to have high profile, unprotected targets in a country brimming with heavily armed crazy people.

Just pointing out that this doesn't exactly solve the issue: you're causing people of unknown competence to have potentially lethal weapons in the presence of children. I thought US law dictated that firearms be kept locked away from children, but IIRC that's only when unattended? Still, risks of accidents happening, and if someone else were to assault a school and kill an armed teacher they would potentially have more weapons to inflict damage with. Plus you have the potential of a school teacher going on a rampage, though I suppose that if you are trusting them with children what's the problem with trusting them a little more.

[regexcellent]

Not only ugly and heavy, but they're just not as good as ARs either.

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[MRT144]

Cars? Knives? Sharp Pencils? Rat Poison? Nail Gun?

At least moat of those have perfectly legitpurposes. But please go on abput the danger of pencils you ****wit

[Felch]

Just pointing out that this doesn't exactly solve the issue: you're causing people of unknown competence to have potentially lethal weapons in the presence of children. I thought US law dictated that firearms be kept locked away from children, but IIRC that's only when unattended? Still, risks of accidents happening, and if someone else were to assault a school and kill an armed teacher they would potentially have more weapons to inflict damage with. Plus you have the potential of a school teacher going on a rampage, though I suppose that if you are trusting them with children what's the problem with trusting them a little more.

It sounds crazy, but it really does seem to work everywhere else in America. Mass shootings seem to always happen in places that prohibit firearms.

[MRT144]

Target shooting and hunting, dufus.

Hunting is killing...****

[MRT144]

It sounds crazy, but it really does seem to work everywhere else in America. Mass shootings seem to always happen in places that prohibit firearms.

Arkansas?

[Krill]

It sounds crazy, but it really does seem to work everywhere else in America. Mass shootings seem to always happen in places that prohibit firearms.

Fort Hood?

[Felch]

At least moat of those have perfectly legitpurposes. But please go on abput the danger of pencils you ****wit

Self defense is a perfectly legitimate purpose. Even if it's extremely unlikely, it's perfectly legitimate.

[Hauldren Collider]

Come on, HC. How many gun owners actually go target shooting? Even so, guns have one purpose. One. It is foolish to suggest otherwise, just as foolish as it is to suggest that all gun owners harbor a secret wish to shoot up their local school/mall/theatre/state capitol.

I don't have any data on this, so I will concede the possibility that most guns just sit in a garage unused. But all the gun owners I know at least occasionally take them shooting.

[Felch]

Fort Hood?

I'm not certain, but I suspect that unauthorized firearms were forbidden in the Soldier Readiness Processing Center. They might have allowed concealed carry permit holders to carry, but I don't know. The Army has its own laws and regulations which I'm not familiar with, and soldiers are excluded from many Constitutional protections.

[Felch]

Arkansas?

I'm sure Arkansas has its share of shootings, but I'm just not certain which one you're referring to.

[regexcellent]

I'm not certain, but I suspect that unauthorized firearms were forbidden in the Soldier Readiness Processing Center. They might have allowed concealed carry permit holders to carry, but I don't know. The Army has its own laws and regulations which I'm not familiar with, and soldiers are excluded from many Constitutional protections.

Carrying firearms is generally forbidden for all personnel except on-duty MPs on military bases if I recall.

[Krill]

I'm not certain, but I suspect that unauthorized firearms were forbidden in the Soldier Readiness Processing Center. They might have allowed concealed carry permit holders to carry, but I don't know. The Army has its own laws and regulations which I'm not familiar with, and soldiers are excluded from many Constitutional protections.

Other people having weapons didn't deter him from attempting to kill people. As reg said, I think MPs normally carry weapons (I'm pretty sure it's the same over here FWIW).