Is the Republican party done?

[Kidlicious]

That or the guy with Down's is somehow less retarded than you are. Not every retarded person has their job because of the government.

Someone decided that he deserves a job despite his disability, which is a belief that all persons are created equal. Read what I am saying. God created all persons equal. Men make themselves lord over others, or others allow themselves to be lorded over.

[Kidlicious]

I never used the word dictator. I said that politically connected people steal the money. Read the posts that you quote.

Of course politically connected people steal the money. They do that everywhere. But atleast he helps out the less fortunate.

[Ben Kenobi]

equal value then they deserve the same

Deserve the same what? Salary? Hell no. Should I earn as much as a translator who speaks four languages fluently? No. Is it a bad thing that the translator makes much, more more than I do? Also no. People should be rewarded for their peculiar talents and the work that they put into to develop their talents, according to whatever the market chooses to pay them.

My value is not determined by the number of digits on my paycheck.

[Ben Kenobi]

Someone decided that he deserves a job despite his disability, which is a belief that all persons are created equal. Read what I am saying. God created all persons equal. Men make themselves lord over others, or others allow themselves to be lorded over.

Actually, he was given a job because his employer can earn a profit off of his labour.

[Kidlicious]

My value is not determined by the number of digits on my paycheck.

Doubletalk.

[Kidlicious]

Actually, he was given a job because his employer can earn a profit off of his labour.

Then his employer is a heartless *******.

[Ben Kenobi]

How can you understand this concept at 6:05, and then forget it completely by 6:08?

That's what happens when you straddle. He slipped and crotched himself

[Ben Kenobi]

Then his employer is a heartless *******.

You do understand that economics is not a zero sum equation? All employers make a profit off of the labour of their employees. If they aren't - then they should fire the employee or they will go out of business very soon.

[Kidlicious]

You do understand that economics is not a zero sum equation? All employers make a profit off of the labour of their employees. If they aren't - then they should fire the employee or they will go out of business very soon.

Please explain how that makes his employer not a heartless *******. People with a heart will hire the guy regardless.

[Ben Kenobi]

Please explain how that makes his employer not a heartless *******.

By treating a person with disabilities like an equal?

People with a heart will hire the guy regardless.

Kidicious - what is the primary social obligation of a business?

[Kidlicious]

By treating a person with disabilities like an equal?

Kidicious - what is the primary social obligation of a business?

To love it's enemies.

[Ben Kenobi]

To love it's enemies.

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It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages

Profit, Kidicious.

[giblets]

Interesting how people who believe in 'equality' believe in equality of outcome - not opportunity. Some people make more of their opportunities than other people. :shrug: Created equal means that everyone has equal value, not that they are equal or ought to be equal in terms of wealth.

Explain how a retarded person with down syndrome can be given equal opportunity as someone with a high IQ. I'm getting the impression you believe in neither equal outcome nor equal opportunity.

[DaShi]

The problem with discussing this stuff with HC is that he truly believes he is self-made. That he would be where he is regardless of his father. A lot of people born into wealth believe this. I believe someone wrote a well-known book on it.

[DriXnaK]

I've sacrificed a tremendous amount to get where I'm at. Even now I have very few possessions and I spend every minute I have improving myself. While people are going out to lunch, I'm saving my money and using that time to learn something new. When people are going out and having fun and drinking, I'm at home trying to pick up new techniques and better myself so I can further increase my income. I don't even have cable TV, and my cell phone has the features of a phone from the 90s. I eat the same thing over and over again and I buy everything from Sams Club to save money. I've given up a lot of the simple joys of life, and I grew up without them too. Are you going to tell me that I'm where I'm at because I was born into it Dashi? Tell me why the rewards for all my hard work and sacrifice should be redistributed to someone inferior and less qualified like Gribbler, and tell me why I should continue to over achieve when I know I will be no better than the worst around me.