Apostolic Succession

[Kidlicious]

We are not bound by the Law as Christians. We should seek the spirit of the Law, and in this case that's that it is good for man to have one day of rest. Paul in Colossians 2 say this on the matter:

16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

Also, I think it's right to believe that Paul (and Jesus) observed the Sabbath.

1 Corinthians 9:19-20

For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews.

[Ben Kenobi]

I see no problem celebrating Easter on whatever day.

What church do you go to that teaches this?

[Jon Miller]

I love the Sabbath, otherwise I would feel guilty about not working 7 days a week and would have more difficulty being sure to set aside time for God. It serves as a reminder of God, my relationship to Him, His Holiness, and His power.

I don't treat it particularly legalistically, which can be a common SDA failing.

I appreciate, but still disagree with, the argument that the importance is to keeping a Sabbath day instead of the Sabbath day. I understand that the early church did observe the Lord's day (often in addition to the Sabbath day).

The argument that Sunday is the proper Sabbath day doesn't make sense at all, and doesn't agree with church tradition or scripture.

JM

[Kidlicious]

What church do you go to that teaches this?

I still attend a methodist church. They don't teach everything I believe. I resigned to not bothering trying to attend a church that teaches everything that I believe.

[Kidlicious]

Read this Ben and tell me what's wrong with believing that it doesn't matter what day you celebrate Easter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_controversy

[Ben Kenobi]

I still attend a methodist church. They don't teach everything I believe. I resigned to not bothering trying to attend a church that teaches everything that I believe.

Why do you believe this then? Do you not believe that Jesus actually died and was resurrected on Easter on a specific day in history?

[Kidlicious]

Why do you believe this then? Do you not believe that Jesus actually died and was resurrected on Easter on a specific day in history?

Yes, but I don't believe that you have to celebrate Easter or that it has to be on a certain day.

[Nikolai]

Paul was a very existentialist teacher. If you choose not to celebrate the Sabbath then no, don't let anyone judge you. However, keep in mind that God created the Sabbath for Christian and Jew a like. Is it right to reject God's gift?

Observe the Sunday, Wednesday, whatever. The day in itself does not matter as I see it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Who told you not to honor the Sabbath? Jesus criticized the Pharisees for not keeping the Sabbath and obeying the Law. And Jesus was Jewish, so were the earliest Chistians and so I'm I (at least the same way Jesus was ).

edit: I don't think it's a sin not to honor the Sabbath, but I think it was wrong to change the day. I think the motivation was to appeal to anti-semetic pagans.

I think you have it backwards as to who critiqued who on the proper keeping of the Sabbath.

And you know, it's called the Lord's Day - not the Sabbath, right?

This has nothing to do with Easter, and I see no problem celebrating Easter on whatever day.

... wow. Aside from, you know... the Gospel text.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yes, but I don't believe that you have to celebrate Easter

Easter is the whole basis for our faith! If you don't celebrate Easter, what are you doing?

[Jon Miller]

Actually, Adventists de-emphasize Easter.

JM

[Kidlicious]

I think you have it backwards as to who critiqued who on the proper keeping of the Sabbath.

No, you're wrong. Jesus criticized the pharisees for making up rules for the Sabbath that God never intended. Jesus taught the true purpose of the Sabbath and how to practice it correctly.

And you know, it's called the Lord's Day - not the Sabbath, right?

It is called the Sabbath.

Sunday rest

The origin of Sunday worship in the 1st or 2nd century remains a debated point. Often first-day worship (Sunday morning or Saturday night) was practiced alongside observance of seventh-day Sabbath rest[11] and was a widespread Christian tradition by the 2nd century;[1][22] over time, Sunday thus came to be known as Lord's Day and, later, a rest day.

On March 7, 321, the Roman Emperor Constantine issued a decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating:[23]


All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun. Country people, however, may freely attend to the cultivation of the fields, because it frequently happens that no other days are better adapted for planting the grain in the furrows or the vines in trenches. So that the advantage given by heavenly providence may not for the occasion of a short time perish.

Some church authorities opposed widespread seventh-day Sabbath observance as a Judaizing tendency.[11] For example, the Council of Laodicea (canon 29) required Christians to separate from Jewish laws and traditions, stating that Christians must not Judaize by resting on Sabbath, but must work that day and then, if possible, rest on the Lord's Day, and that any found to be Judaizers were declared anathema from Christ.[24] This was consistent with Constantine's personal position towards Jewry,[25][26] which has been described by the primitive Christianity movement as being anti-Semitic, antinomian, and persecution of seventh-day observers.[citation needed] Simultaneously Rabbinical Judaism was distinguishing itself from primitive Christianity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath...ical_tradition

... wow. Aside from, you know... the Gospel text.

No, I don't know. Please provide verses to support what you are claiming.

[Kidlicious]

Easter is the whole basis for our faith! If you don't celebrate Easter, what are you doing?

I don't know what the basis of your faith is, mine is my relationship with God. To answer your question, I suppose if I were to skip Easter I could do whatever, like take a hike in the mountains or something.

edit: Also, I would like to point out that I never intended to say that the Sabbath should be a basis of faith, only that the church changed the tradition or eliminated the tradition, and that that was their own doing, not God's.

[molly bloom]

Churches always change, that's why the Bible is so important. It doesn't change.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... thass sooooo funny.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No, you're wrong. Jesus criticized the pharisees for making up rules for the Sabbath that God never intended. Jesus taught the true purpose of the Sabbath and how to practice it correctly.

Actually the Pharisees were actually following the rules for the sabbath to the letter. Jesus was pointing out that now we aren't under the Law, but under Grace.

It is called the Sabbath.

Erroneously. We shouldn't continue error just because others are doing so.

No, I don't know. Please provide verses to support what you are claiming.

You have stated you believe in "Good Friday", so therefore what does on the third day he rose again mean to you?

I don't know what the basis of your faith is, mine is my relationship with God.

Which kind of God? Easter is a foundation of Christian faith.

I know you enjoy Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Sunday

The New Testament teaches that the resurrection of Jesus, which Easter celebrates, is a foundation of the Christian faith.[26] The resurrection established Jesus as the powerful Son of God[27] and is cited as proof that God will judge the world in righteousness.[28] God has given Christians "a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead".[29] Christians, through faith in the working of God[30] are spiritually resurrected with Jesus so that they may walk in a new way of life.[31]