Paul Ryan Poll

[Nikolai]

He's no Jack Ryan.

ACK!

Jack Ryan would be awesome.

[Aeson]

Not as VP ... then he would have got killed along with all the rest :2012:

[Lorizael]

Jack Ryan has already been elected President twice. It's not clear whether he'd be eligible for the Vice Presidency.

[Ben Kenobi]

Sure, you're a real community spirited type, that must be why you spray hatred for the world with every sentence.

Reagan's commandment - "do not speak ill of a conservative".

Smells awfully like liberal, doesn't it regexcellence?

You really are a deeply unpleasant person, aren't you.

I'm glad you concede the point, that yes, Obama was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and not on the streets of Harlem.

Sure, they give scholarships to the super rich now.

Last I checked, they only means-test what his parents made.

[kittenOFchaos]

Some people have more resources than others and that is a consequence of their work. If that weren't the case nobody would work.

You seriously believe that?

Take a moment to think of these guys perhaps: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/200...awah_ijen.html

Wealth is not down to hard work alone. It is down to family, genetics, education and opportunity (e.g not getting born in Somalia or making the right friends/acquaintances). Socialism is about providing a more equal playing field, certain brands of conservatism seem to be about ensuring that this does not happen.

On a personal level, I was born into a middle-class family and that has made my life pretty cushy, but at least I have the sense to recognise that and I don't attribute it to working particularly hard.

[kentonio]

Reagan's commandment - "do not speak ill of a conservative".

Smells awfully like liberal, doesn't it regexcellence?

Your brand of 'conservatism' disgusts me. Even if it didn't, I'm ****ed if it'd feel any need to obey the commandments according to StReagan, a second rate B movie actor.

I'm glad you concede the point, that yes, Obama was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and not on the streets of Harlem.

You haven't yet explained why having a grandmother who's an executive at a bank makes the grandchild instantly wealthy. He lived with his Grandmother at various times, but still needed a scholarship to get into a private school. I know the idea that a black man got ahead in the world through intellect and talent is a difficult one for racist little ****s like yourself to understand, but guess what, it actually happened.

Last I checked, they only means-test what his parents made.

You didn't check a damn thing, but who knows, maybe that's the case. Grandparents are not responsible for the financing of their grandchildren, and so far you've completely failed to produce any evidence of Obama growing up wealthy other than the normal tired, racist birtherism we should be used to from you by now.

[Hauldren Collider]

Regardless, If hard work didn't have a significant payoff, no one would bother.

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Kentonio--Obama's life actually has been pretty cushy, he really can't pretend that he's faced down some epic personal difficulty. And if we're playing the "who's had it worse" game, it's certainly nothing like finding your dad dead at 16 and having to support your family.

[Ben Kenobi]

Your brand of 'conservatism' disgusts me. Even if it didn't, I'm ****ed if it'd feel any need to obey the commandments according to StReagan, a second rate B movie actor.

If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal, smells like a liberal, maybe it actually is a liberal.

You haven't yet explained why having a grandmother who's an executive at a bank makes the grandchild instantly wealthy. He lived with his Grandmother at various times, but still needed a scholarship to get into a private school.

Yes, and? He got the scholarship, never had to pay a dime. Got it based on what his parents earned which was sweet diddly poo. They didn't and don't check what his grandparents earned.

I know the idea that a black man got ahead in the world through intellect and talent is a difficult one for racist little ****s like yourself to understand, but guess what, it actually happened.

Then what were Obama's grades through high school and college so that we can verify that yes, he did earn the scholarships based on merit?

You didn't check a damn thing, but who knows, maybe that's the case. Grandparents are not responsible for the financing of their grandchildren, and so far you've completely failed to produce any evidence of Obama growing up wealthy other than the normal tired, racist birtherism we should be used to from you by now.

Yeah, Obama's grandparents took over looking after him, because his father was non-existant and his mother really didn't give a **** about him. They had the means and cared for him, and when it came up in the campaign, Obama tossed his grandmother under a bus. Just like he did with Wright and anyone who helped him get where he is now.

[Jon Miller]

Either pay the difference themselves, or recognize that we can't give everyone as much healthcare as they need. There isn't enough money.

There is if we switch to a more reasonable, more public, system.

JM

[Hauldren Collider]

So how are you proposing to conjure medical resources that simply don't exist?

[kentonio]

Kentonio--Obama's life actually has been pretty cushy, he really can't pretend that he's faced down some epic personal difficulty. And if we're playing the "who's had it worse" game, it's certainly nothing like finding your dad dead at 16 and having to support your family.

His parents divorced at 3, his mother moved around the world, his father died when he was 21 after basically never seeing him. None of this is 'OMG worst life ever!', but he had a pretty tough time growing up, and it seems meanspirited in the extreme to try and argue against that.

When it comes down to it though, this isn't a sob story competition. The only reason a certain group of people (and no I don't mean you) choose to attack Obama on this sort of thing, is because they have real issues with the idea of a black man succeeding on merit. It's the exact same reason they endlessly prattle on about college transcripts.

[Ben Kenobi]

is because they have real issues with the idea of a black man succeeding on merit. It's the exact same reason they endlessly prattle on about college transcripts.

Demanding proof to back up your statement that Obama earned his scholarships, makes me racist?

Hey, it's all up to you. If you can't provide the evidence then you'll have to withdraw your unsupported claim.

[kentonio]

If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal, smells like a liberal, maybe it actually is a liberal.

If it walks like a racist little fascist, talks like a racist little fascist..

Then what were Obama's grades through high school and college so that we can verify that yes, he did earn the scholarships based on merit?

Because you asked the same question about previous white preidents of course? ****ing racist.

Yeah, Obama's grandparents took over looking after him, because his father was non-existant and his mother really didn't give a **** about him. They had the means and cared for him, and when it came up in the campaign, Obama tossed his grandmother under a bus.

Thrown under a bus? He talked about how even people he loved beyond measure were capable of expressing a form of casual racism that was ingrained into white society. The fact you can't understand the nuance of that says a lot about you.

[rah]

When it comes down to it though, this isn't a sob story competition.

I think when you're attempting to pummel your opponent with, you were raised wealthy and that somehow makes you unsuitable to be president, then he's opening the door for it to become a sob story competition. Just saying. While I'll agree that Mitt had it easier due to the his wealthy background, that doesn't mean that he didn't work hard for his success or that Obama's background made it as hard for him as he'd like everyone to believe.

[Ben Kenobi]

Because you asked the same question about previous white preidents of course? ****ing racist.

Romney, Kerry, Bush and Gore all provided their transcripts.

Now, again, where is the evidence that Obama earned these scholarships? Do you have any evidence to verify your claim?

Thrown under a bus? He talked about how even people he loved beyond measure were capable of expressing a form of casual racism that was ingrained into white society. The fact you can't understand the nuance of that says a lot about you.

Given that his grandmother (white), cared for him, provided for him and looked after him, this statement is extraordinarily ungrateful.