Canada declares war on Catholicism

[Elok]

Here is a sadistic rabbit.

[Ben Kenobi]

Extra credit to the Conservatives for being on the wrong side of yet another issue. They have a particular knack for making a bad Premier look good.

Supporting religious freedom is a bad thing? What's next - requiring the Catholic church to perform gay marriages? I thought you promised us that this wasn't going to happen.

Glad to see that was a complete lie.

The Church can't be required to abide by an unjust law contrary to their Charter protections.

They can pass it, let's see them enforce it.

[Ben Kenobi]

So the law professor that authored the study says honor killings are ALWAYS prosecuted. Where are the "many many more" that were not prosecuted?

There's actually only been one of them that was prosecuted as a honor killing. The article goes on to say that there are many other suspicious incidents that do occur, but don't get prosecuted.

[Ben Kenobi]

You're an idiot. They're patently illegal in Canada and are prosecuted whenever there is a sufficient case, as with any other crime.

Then why are so few prosecuted? 12 over the last 10 years?

[Ben Kenobi]

Whether they do or not doesn't seem to matter to the church.

Answer the question Rah.

Would these clubs promote sodomy?

So if they're virgins they have chosen not to act on them, they should be in good standing.

Yes, they would be in good standing.

If they're in good standing why can't they use the word GAY in their club name to protest those that are bullies or support the victims?

If they had sex in their club name, would it be permitted? You are missing the point. One is a member in good standing insofar as one acknowledges that sin is sin, and shouldn't be committed. Forming clubs celebrating sin does just the opposite.

[Asher]

Then why are so few prosecuted? 12 over the last 10 years?

Probably the same reason so few child raping priests are prosecuted.

[Ben Kenobi]

Probably the same reason so few child raping priests are prosecuted.

I'm looking forward to see what happens, when all the secular schools open up prolife clubs.

[giblets]

Do you have any evidence that they wouldn't allow students to open up pro-life clubs if they so desired?

[Asher]

My public (secular) high school had a Christian Life club and Pro-Life club (and no GSA). For all intents and purposes, they were the same clubs.

Those poor, victimized pro-life Christians.

[MrFun]

Yes, he's an idiot. If any crime isn't prosecuted 100% of the time, it's considered permitted. If anyone guilty ever gets off, it's considered permitted.
That's the type of logic that makes him a star here.

Yep - let's apply BK's "logic" another way. OJ Simpson did not get convicted for murder, so this means that in the US, murder is legal.

[Wezil]

Ontarians who want to scrap $7 billion in taxpayer support for separate schools outnumber those who favour it, a new poll says in the wake of Catholic objections to an anti-bullying law passed Tuesday.

The poll, conducted Monday by Forum Research Inc., found that 48 per cent of Ontario residents disagreed with taxpayer support of Catholic schools while 43 per cent agreed with a continuation of public funding. Eight per cent were unsure.

Months of debate over gay-straight alliances has reignited the question of Catholic school funding, with activists for a single, secular public school system vowing to keep the pressure on — even though the three major parties at Queen’s Park refuse to touch the issue.

“The genie is absolutely out of the bottle and the public is demanding a conversation about modernizing our public school system,” said Green Party Leader Mike Schreiner.

“We need to merge the best of the Catholic and public system into one publicly funded education system, French and English.”

Education Minister Laurel Broten, while reaffirming the minority Liberal government’s support for separate school funding, left no doubts she’s well aware of a public split.

“I acknowledge and know that there are many different opinions when it comes to the number of school boards we should have.”

The turning point this time was Catholic objections to Bill 13, the Accepting Schools Act, requiring principals to allow students to call anti-homophobia support groups “gay” clubs or similar names, said lawyer Douglas Elliott of the Gay-Straight Alliance Coalition.

Cardinal Thomas Collins, president of the Assembly of Catholic Bishops of Ontario, branded the amendment an attack on “religious freedom” while a Catholic school trustee group said the word gay in club names would be a “distraction” in schools where religious doctrine holds that homosexual acts are wrong.

“It’s been interesting to see how the debate around Bill 13 quickly shifted from should Catholic schools be required to allow these clubs to why do we have publicly funded Catholic schools?” said Elliott.

“I think the Catholic conservatives have really overplayed their hand.”

The Assembly of Catholic Bishops declined to comment Tuesday on the funding debate, saying Catholic educators will “foster safe and welcoming school communities” despite “serious concerns” over the bill.

The poll results released Tuesday show that the question of funding “is not going away,” said Forum president Lorne Bozinoff.

“It’s become a big issue. It’s clear that Ontarians are losing patience with the Catholic church’s stand on gay-straight alliances … the church may regret its position later.”

The poll, which also found support for gay-straight alliances had increased, was conducted by telephone with 1,038 random respondents.

Keep up the good work Ben.

[rah]

Answer the question Rah.

Would these clubs promote sodomy?

I would think they would be focused on ending bullying. That is the purpose, so I would say no. Do you object to them trying to end bullying? You're assuming just because gay is in the title that it would automatically be promoting sodomy. That is such narrow thinking.

If they had sex in their club name, would it be permitted? You are missing the point. One is a member in good standing insofar as one acknowledges that sin is sin, and shouldn't be committed. Forming clubs celebrating sin does just the opposite.

No you're missing the point. These aren't let's celebrate we're gay clubs, they're let's stop the bullying before more commit suicide clubs. You can't seem to differentiate. I guess you don't want to. If they haven't committed a sin yet, what is your problem?

[Wezil]

I fully expected the principled Catholics to refuse this dirty public money now.

[Dr Strangelove]

Then why are so few prosecuted? 12 over the last 10 years?

Were there more than 12? If there were only 12 then prosecuting 12 would be completely appropriate.

[Proteus_MST]

Supporting religious freedom is a bad thing? What's next - requiring the Catholic church to perform gay marriages? I thought you promised us that this wasn't going to happen.

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I hope you know that there is a difference between forcing someone to do something
and forbidding someone from doing something

Just because the catholic church has been forbidden from denigrating homosexuals in public schools
doesn´t mean that she is/will be forced to do something (like performing gay marriages or even, praise the "homosexual lifestyle")