Racist Poster

[Docfeelgood]

You mean the freedom to have the government tell an employer that they can't make a specific type of contract with a union?

good point

[Hauldren Collider]

HC, what evidence do you have that "right-to-work" laws were the main factor?

Well, let me put it in a way that I think will appeal to your logic and reasoning--why else would Hyundai and Subaru decide to open plants in Tennessee and Alabama of all places?

[Tupac Shakur]

Boeing's South Carolina move

[Hauldren Collider]

That's because the union soldiers were usually on the offensive.

Gribbler, let's face it--the South clearly had better generals than the North. The problem was that the South's victories were Pyrrhic. Grant and Sherman could simply afford to lose more troops. Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee--definitely better generals than anyone the North had. Lee was probably one of the greatest American generals ever.

[Hauldren Collider]

Boeing's South Carolina move

**** the NLRB

Virginia politicians (and politicans across the South, mind you) are fairly up in arms over that completely bull**** ruling. As they should be.

[Tupac Shakur]

Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee--definitely better generals than anyone the North had.

Wrong. Jackson was a religious nut and no great general would've ordered Pickett's Charge. Sherman was better than both.

[Hauldren Collider]

They were southerners--of course they were religious. And Pickett's Charge was Lee's one big mistake in a long war. Sherman may have been better but the Union consistently ****ed up with Lee until Grant came along and turned the Union Army into something that could actually fight and win.

[Docfeelgood]

Gribbler, let's face it--the South clearly had better generals than the North. The problem was that the South's victories were Pyrrhic. Grant and Sherman could simply afford to lose more troops. Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee--definitely better generals than anyone the North had. Lee was probably one of the greatest American generals ever.

Should have listen to Longstreet

[Tupac Shakur]

And Picket's Charge was Lee's one big mistake in a long war.

No.

[Hauldren Collider]

But then McClellan retreated because he was a moron. Lee was still better.

[giblets]

Well, let me put it in a way that I think will appeal to your logic and reasoning--why else would Hyundai and Subaru decide to open plants in Tennessee and Alabama of all places?

Naming an example of a company that opened a plant in the south doesn't prove your point at all. If the south was poor, then it would have had cheaper labor than the north, with or without the "right-to-work" laws.

[Docfeelgood]

And Picket's Charge was Lee's one big mistake in a long war.

Yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickett%27s_Charge

[Tupac Shakur]

But then McClellan retreated because he was a moron. Lee was still better.

Better than McClellan? Yes, but that isn't saying much...

[giblets]

Gribbler, let's face it--the South clearly had better generals than the North. The problem was that the South's victories were Pyrrhic. Grant and Sherman could simply afford to lose more troops. Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee--definitely better generals than anyone the North had. Lee was probably one of the greatest American generals ever.

I am no expert on the subject, but I do know that defense had a huge advantage. (just look at how the traitors were massacred during Pickett's charge.) The fact that the Union needed to capture territory in order to win meant it needed to go on the offensive a lot and take lots of casualties.

[Hauldren Collider]

I think traitors would be the wrong word, gribbler. While I would agree that ostensibly the war was fought over slavery, I think your average Johnny Rebel was probably fighting for his homeland against the invading Yankees and for the perceived violation of his state's sovereignty. So the question is, traitors to who? Certainly not to their homes.