Pro-Life Means Protect the Earth

[Ben Kenobi]

Really Ben, choose your fights.

I'd rather have 10 enemies then someone who doesn't have my back. At least then I can tell where they stand.

You chose to pick this fight, so I'm calling you out.

[Nikolai]

This is beyond silly Ben. Friends don't need to be in agreement on everything. Friends call out when something is not right. Friends don't baby sit, but they defend you when it's needed. Why is it that you so often try to quarrel with me, and call me various things, like your double standard comment a while ago? Why can't you just accept that being fellow Christians don't mean we have to agree on everything, and support eachother on every detail, and if we don't, we're bad friends? I just don't get it.

[MOBIUS]

Thank you. Thread can end now. The environmental movement is nothing but people-haters.

I don't hate people, you ******! I believe there are already too many people on this planet as it is by at least a factor of two. I believe in quality of life for those people that are here, and we can't even afford to feed those that are here!

Hundreds of millions of people live on just a dollar a day - your policies would condemn those people to a continuing life of poverty and despair - you are the people-hater!

[MRT144]

There are natural limits, due to fertility, etc.

If you see children as a natural blessing, then more children is better.

Secondly, it has nothing to do with fornication. Sex in marriage.

Alcohol is a blessing but I don't think binge drinking is better.

[MRT144]

This is beyond silly Ben. Friends don't need to be in agreement on everything. Friends call out when something is not right. Friends don't baby sit, but they defend you when it's needed. Why is it that you so often try to quarrel with me, and call me various things, like your double standard comment a while ago? Why can't you just accept that being fellow Christians don't mean we have to agree on everything, and support eachother on every detail, and if we don't, we're bad friends? I just don't get it.

Cause you're a good Christian and Ben isn't by virtue of his rigid approach to anything, especially hunky men.

[Ben Kenobi]

Nikolai, I don't expect you to always agree with me. Never have I said so.

Let's look at the flip side here.

Suppose you're gettin' dogpiled. Which side of the pile am I going to jump on?

[MOBIUS]

This is beyond silly Ben. Friends don't need to be in agreement on everything. Friends call out when something is not right. Friends don't baby sit, but they defend you when it's needed. Why is it that you so often try to quarrel with me, and call me various things, like your double standard comment a while ago? Why can't you just accept that being fellow Christians don't mean we have to agree on everything, and support eachother on every detail, and if we don't, we're bad friends? I just don't get it.

Hear, hear Nikolai.

Ben appears cursed with that curious affliction where 'if you're not with me, you're against me'. Hardly a Christian sentiment (or at least, not a nice one), if you ask me and I'm an atheist!

[Nikolai]

The side that is right. I'd like you to agree with me, but if I were wrong, I'd expect you to kindly point that out. There's a difference there.

[Ben Kenobi]

Alcohol is a blessing but I don't think binge drinking is better.

Hmm, all things in moderation. Fine, what do you consider appropriate?

[BlackCat]

There are natural limits, due to fertility, etc.

If you see children as a natural blessing, then more children is better.

Secondly, it has nothing to do with fornication. Sex in marriage.

BS. There are no limitation wrt fertility - every fertile woman can deliver a baby from 14 to 40 or so, and that is what you and your ilk advocates in areas of the world where such only leads to poverty, crime famity and violence.

You are a ****ing canuck where 2.2 children is the normal, so no wonder if you see a child as a blessing, but that is in your little narrowminded circle.

Sex in marriage is actually lesser than sex outside marriage. Besides that, sex isn't in any way connected to marriage - it's something that for humans typicaly is activated around 13-15 years and the critters can do it without teaching.

[Ben Kenobi]

The side that is right. I'd like you to agree with me, but if I were wrong, I'd expect you to kindly point that out. There's a difference there.

Hmm, different values then me.

I figure life's tough enough out there not to come to the aid of a friend.

[Nikolai]

I'm all for justice. That value is very strong in me. I like to think that it comes from God, that he has given that quality to me.

[BlackCat]

The side that is right. I'd like you to agree with me, but if I were wrong, I'd expect you to kindly point that out. There's a difference there.

No offense, but I hope that you mean "The side that I think is the right"

[Ben Kenobi]

BS. There are no limitation wrt fertility

Do you even understand fertility, at all?

- every fertile woman can deliver a baby from 14 to 40 or so, and that is what you and your ilk advocates in areas of the world where such only leads to poverty, crime famity and violence.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Has to be at the right time of the month, which usually only happens if she's consistant at it. Most likely in marriage, and it's rather unlikely to be more than 10 or so.

You said there were no limits, and I'm saying, even in ideal circumstances, there are limits.

You are a ****ing canuck where 2.2 children is the normal, so no wonder if you see a child as a blessing, but that is in your little narrowminded circle.

Hmm? Quite wrong. Danes have higher fertility than we do. Look it up.

Sex in marriage is actually lesser than sex outside marriage.

Ok, so lets get that straight. I'm arguing you should save sex for marriage, and you are complaining that I'm not imposing restrictions...

Besides that, sex isn't in any way connected to marriage

Yes, it is. Two become one flesh. That is, if you want to have sex more than once...

[Nikolai]

If we are going to look to the semantics, more like "The side that you think is the right".