Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Huge Canadian Politics Scandal Involving Prime Minister! Christian nuttery involved

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #61
    BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service


    Cost of Royal Family rises £1.5m

    The Royal Family cost every person in the UK 69p last year - an increase of 3p on the previous year, Buckingham Palace accounts show.

    The total cost to the public of keeping the monarchy increased by £1.5m to £41.5m in the 2008/9 financial year.

    Palace accounts also show that the Queen dipped into a reserve fund to boost by £6m her Civil List, which pays for the running of the Royal household.

    It is the largest sum ever drawn from the reserve built up in the 1990s.

    The Queen's Civil List, which also covers Royal household staff salaries, cost £13.9m in 2007/8 - this comprised £7.9m from government coffers and £6m from the reserve.

    If the Queen continues to spend money from the reserve at the rate she is now, it will be used up by the start of her Diamond Jubilee year in 2012.


    Peter Hunt
    Peter Hunt, BBC royal correspondent
    69p is an eye-catching figure. It's the sum royal officials proudly say the monarchy costs each person in the country. However, this headline amount doesn't include the large, but never disclosed security bill for protecting the royals around the clock.

    It's clear from these accounts that by next year, the Queen will have to go cap in hand to the government seeking an increased income. One of her annual pots of money, the Civil List, has been set at £7.9m for 20 years.

    In the good times, a surplus built up. For the past eight years, it's been raided and is dwindling. The £7.9m Civil List funds, among other things, £11m of salaries and catering.

    In a recession, with cuts on the agenda and an election looming, the royals face difficult financial negotiations in 2010.

    If the total cost of the monarchy is calculated per taxpayer and not per person, the cost works out at about £1.33 each.

    Of the £13.9m Civil List purse, nearly £10m went on staff salaries.

    Housekeeping and furnishings cost £700,000 and ceremonial functions cost £400,000.

    A further £1.1m was spent on catering and hospitality - within this, garden parties cost £600,000, while the cost of food and the royal kitchens came to £500,000.

    Computers and IT systems cost £400,000 - double the figure for 2007 due to the launch of a new British monarchy website and new personnel, payroll and online recruitment systems.

    The £7.9m figure that is granted by the government was frozen in 2000, to compensate for 10 years of over-generous payments. It will be up for re-negotiation at the end of 2010.

    The current deal was agreed by Sir John Major in 1990.

    The shortfall has led to questions about how much Buckingham Palace will be able to ask for from the government during a recession.

    Last year Buckingham Palace officials described the cost of the Royal Family to taxpayers as less than the price of two pints of milk or an MP3 player download.

    But Graham Smith of the anti-monarchy campaign group, Republic, said the cost of the monarchy to the public was unjustified.

    He said: "Once again, the powers that be are continually putting their hands into the public finances. They are not being totally clear and transparent about how that money is spent.

    "This is a hugely expensive institution and we should be looking at massive cuts."

    Mr Smith said it was possible to run a head of state at a much reduced cost, offering as examples the Republic of Ireland and Germany.

    He suggested the Queen should be paid a salary of £200,000 a year.

    Mr Smith also said that dividing the £41m between each person in the UK to arrive at the 69p figure was really a means to make the cost seem less than it was.

    The £41m total does not include security provided by the police and Army or the ceremonial duties performed by the Armed Forces.

    The cost of Royal travel, which is also paid by the taxpayer, increased by £300,000 from £6.2m to £6.5m.

    The most expensive journeys were the long-haul overseas tours of the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

    Comment


    • #62
      Originally posted by Asher View Post
      It also doesn't include the cost of the Queen, so it's not at all relevant.

      Where is the cost of her staff? Her transportation? Maintenance and renovations at Buckingham Palace?

      Why should I even have to enumerate this to you.

      A: It's not a one way street. The monarchy contributes a great deal to Britain through tourism.

      B: If not a monarch, then a president. Someone is going to occupy a position that is going to go with a level of pomp and ceremony.

      If the cost is the issue, then cut the budget and change the function. Someone is still going to occupy the position or one similar in role to it. Meanwhile, the Brits do see benefits to the monarchy and their funding of it.
      (\__/)
      (='.'=)
      (")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

      Comment


      • #63
        Do people go to see Buckingham Palace, or the Queen?

        I went to see Buckingham Palace. The Queen wasn't even there.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

        Comment


        • #64
          Think of how many tabloids that would go under if they had no royals to hunt and report on.

          There are a lot of indirect positives that come from the royals, but I have to believe that they cost more then they generate based on what i've read. Asher is probably right that there would be considerable tourism whether there was a royal family or not since a lot of the sites have historical value.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

          Comment


          • #65
            Not just Catholics have communion.
            Slowwy, people who aren't Catholics are not supposed to recieve Catholic communion. I know that's different from most protestant churches, but then we don't believe the same thing. All masses have communion.

            How often do you have the Lord's Supper at your church?
            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
            2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

            Comment


            • #66
              There are a lot of indirect positives that come from the royals, but I have to believe that they cost more then they generate based on what i've read. Asher is probably right that there would be considerable tourism whether there was a royal family or not since a lot of the sites have historical value.
              They generate 230 million pounds a year, and they only get paid about 8 million pounds a year. They return about 25x what they cost.

              Their tax rate is about 97 percent.
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

              Comment


              • #67
                Back in the stone ages when I was an alter boy, visiting dignataries were usually offered. Most had the common sense not to participate but many did. No nuns ever fainted in the front row, and the tiniest faux pas usually resulted in at least half a dozen nuns fainting.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

                Comment


                • #68
                  Do people go to see Buckingham Palace, or the Queen?

                  I went to see Buckingham Palace. The Queen wasn't even there.
                  That's because she does work, and has plenty of things to do.

                  Would you have gone to Buckingham Palace if it wasn't the residence of the Queen?
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                  "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                  2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

                  Comment


                  • #69
                    Please don't confuse what they're paid and what it costs to support the monarchy. Salaries are just a small percentage of the cost. I bet just security for the entire royal family is considerably higher than 8 million a year.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

                    Comment


                    • #70
                      Back in the stone ages when I was an alter boy, visiting dignataries were usually offered. Most had the common sense not to participate but many did. No nuns ever fainted in the front row, and the tiniest faux pas usually resulted in at least half a dozen nuns fainting.
                      Was this before or after the invention of fire?
                      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                      "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                      2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

                      Comment


                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        They generate 230 million pounds a year, and they only get paid about 8 million pounds a year. They return about 25x what they cost.

                        Their tax rate is about 97 percent.
                        Ben, SDAGFAHSDLIGHKASDKGLHASDFGHASFKH

                        I had just quoted an article that discusses the Royal cost. Their paycheques are a tiny drop in the bucket of their cost.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

                        Comment


                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          That's because she does work, and has plenty of things to do.

                          Would you have gone to Buckingham Palace if it wasn't the residence of the Queen?
                          Yes. Because it has historical significance.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

                          Comment


                          • #73
                            Please don't confuse what they're paid and what it costs to support the monarchy. Salaries are just a small percentage of the cost. I bet just security for the entire royal family is considerably higher than 8 million a year.
                            Is it higher then 230 million pounds a year?
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                            2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

                            Comment


                            • #74
                              I had just quoted an article that discusses the Royal cost. Their paycheques are a tiny drop in the bucket of their cost.
                              Ok, for sake of argument, say it's 50 million pounds a year, with all their travel, and the security and the upkeep for all the palaces.

                              They still return 4x as much as they cost to the purse. Britain is 150 million pounds to the good, not even accounting for tourism from all over the world.
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

                              Comment


                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                Is it higher then 230 million pounds a year?
                                Ben, you colossal ****.

                                Forget it. You do not comprehend your own numbers, and you are incapable of doing so.

                                Allow me to educate you what the Crown Estate is. Hint: It's not the Queen's stuff.

                                In the United Kingdom, the Crown Estate is a property portfolio owned by the Crown. Historically the possession of monarchs, it is no longer the private property of the reigning monarch and cannot be sold by him/her, nor do the revenues from it belong to the monarch personally. It is managed by an independent organisation and headed by the Crown Estate Commissioners. The surplus revenue from the Estate is paid each year to HM Treasury. The Crown Estate is formally accountable to parliament, to which it makes an annual report.
                                It is a statutory corporation, not the Queen's personal revenues.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X