Huge Canadian Politics Scandal Involving Prime Minister! Christian nuttery involved

[Zevico]

If the Commons engaged in revolution, and seized the lands, Commons risk undermining their own authority. What would they do with the Lords?

Napoleon was able to come to power precisely after the Robespierre regime cut their own throats.

I can't see the Queen not receiving a generous settlement if they were to become a republic. The alternatives are far too costly.

Congratulations, you get a gold star.
BK--the best troll on these boards by far.

[KrazyHorse]

Some of Asher's responses made me want to read the originals.

Why? You'll simply get angry and frustrated when you realize that reasonable arguments fail to penetrate his thick skull.

[notyoueither]

No, one on one combat.

Do we meet after the zoo bell rings?

[notyoueither]

Congratulations, you get a gold star.
BK--the best troll on these boards by far.

Someone has to treat it seriously for it to be a good troll, no?

I mean other than Asher, who could be reasonably assumed to be incapable of ignoring Ben.

[KrazyHorse]

Do we meet after the zoo bell rings?

Rawr

[Kuciwalker]

Why? You'll simply get angry and frustrated when you realize that reasonable arguments fail to penetrate his thick skull.

Dude, I got the joy of watching him claim that renouncing the monarchy would result in the collapse of British democracy.

[KrazyHorse]

Liar. He made your head hurt, just like mine.

[Ben Kenobi]

Dude, I got the joy of watching him claim that renouncing the monarchy would result in the collapse of British democracy.

Where did I say that? If you simply kick her out without compensation and seize the property, then yes, you are going to have a revolution.

If the Queen steps down with compensation, I don't see why it would be anything other then orderly.

[ShaneWalter]

So Ben, what of South Africa, which left the commonwealth, only to join again after Apartheid was ended? What of the Unilateral Declaration of Independance in Rhodesia? They unilaterally declared themselves independent of the Britian and the commonwealth when Britian opposed white minority rule.

How do these examples work into your assertion that the queen would deserve a settlement if a state decides to leave the Commonwealth?

[Asher]

Somebody's first post being a dismantling of Ben. Very promising.

Welcome.

[SlowwHand]

[KrazyHorse]

If his second post explains that he has put ben on ignore then it will be even more promising.

[notyoueither]

Zevico DL.

[Ben Kenobi]

So Ben, what of South Africa, which left the commonwealth, only to join again after Apartheid was ended?

WRT to Rhodesia, the British government never recognised them as legitimate.

As for South Africa, the Commonwealth kicked them out.

[ShaneWalter]

WRT to Rhodesia, the British government never recognised them as legitimate.

As for South Africa, the Commonwealth kicked them out.

I'll concede Rhodesia.

South Africa, though, was not kicked out. Verweord, tired of the British criticisms of Apartheid, initiated a referendum, asking if South Africa should cease being a constitutional monarchy and should become a republic. The response was 52% "yes". Due to this change to Republic, South Africa was required to re-apply for admission to the Commonwealth. They knew that their application would be blocked by the African and Asian state members of the Commonwealth, so they never reapplied.

The actual process for becoming a republic (eliminating the queen as head of state) was relatively straight forward and didn't really require any 'permission' from the Queen, as far as I can see. I imagine there are other examples of this from Asia or perhaps even within Africa.