Obama Suggests Jesus Christ Not the Only Way to Heaven

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I have to say that his opinion on the spiritual fate of his mother doesn't really give me as much cause for concern as the fact that he went to a church that espoused Liberation Theology.

That isn't for you to judge. I have to go to work. No time to nitpick with you people.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Originally posted by Alexander I
Ha, yeah right. It takes a lot more than you'll ever do to get condemned to Outer Darkness.

I wouldn't bet on that if I were you...

[Alinestra Covelia]

I'd personally like to see a US politician keep his or her religion completely off the radar.

"Yes, I'm X but that shouldn't matter because of separation of church and state. If you vote for me, I'd prefer you do it because of my politics and not because of my religion."

Or even:

"I'm not going to comment on my religion. That has no place in my work as a politician and so I refuse to make it a part of my election."

Isn't the UK already largely indifferent to its elected officials' religious beliefs? I remember hearing that Tony Blair recently (after stepping down as PM) converted to Catholicism and I remember thinking "Wow, he was an Anglican before? I'd no idea..."

[MarkG]

Liberation Theology? dont make me google please

[Ben Kenobi]

Tony Blair also refuses to stand up for his new faith.

I don't believe he's converted honestly. He doesn't show any respect for the pope or the teachings of the Catholic church.

Look at it this way Ali C. Religion has effects on what a person believes and where there head is at. I would want to know what religion they practice, if any, so I have a better idea of what I can expect if they get in power.

I think religion does have a place on politics, when many of the political issues overlap with church teachings.

[Elok]

Originally posted by MarkG
Liberation Theology? dont make me google please

Liberation Theology is basically taking that iconic picture of Che Guevara, slapping on a halo, and trying to pass him off as Jesus. It's been anathematized by the Pope, IIRC, and is/was popular in Latin America.

[Ben Kenobi]

Liberation theology = Marx is the real Christ.

Edit, Elok was faster...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Tony Blair also refuses to stand up for his new faith.

I don't believe he's converted honestly. He doesn't show any respect for the pope or the teachings of the Catholic church.

So, he's like a normal Catholic then?

[Ben Kenobi]

It's not for no reason that the catholic church usually uses the tradition! The Bible doesn't serve the catholic position very well.

Bible I believe suits the position of the Catholic church very well, especially since we were the ones who put it together.

Why else would Protestants have to take books out?

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
I'd personally like to see a US politician keep his or her religion completely off the radar.

"Yes, I'm X but that shouldn't matter because of separation of church and state. If you vote for me, I'd prefer you do it because of my politics and not because of my religion."

Or even:

"I'm not going to comment on my religion. That has no place in my work as a politician and so I refuse to make it a part of my election."

This thread amuses me. Thank you all.

-Arrian

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by CyberShy
- catholic tradition of worshipping / praying to saints

That has really been tonned down since the middle ages, today It plays a very minor role in worship. Except in latin America. But I would argue that if it where not for the saints Chatolicism would have had far less converts from the polytheistic peoples of Africa and the Americas.

Also if you belive in heaven, why not ask a guy living in heaven to ask God really really nicley for stuff you want. The hope is that saints being saints will spend more time praying than you will.

Originally posted by CyberShy

- catholic possibility to buy yourself into heaven

That was done away a long time ago. But it seems some modern protestant televangelists think it works.

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
...trying to pass [Che Guevara] off as Jesus.

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Liberation theology = Marx is the real Christ.

Or in the case of Rev. Wright, it's more like Malcolm X = the Messiah. Or Barack Obama.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by CyberShy


You're not really good at it
It's not for no reason that the catholic church usually uses the tradition! The Bible doesn't serve the catholic position very well

Yes it does.


Otherwise the bible would have been different. The fact that the church representatives voted on what got into the bible assures it.

[Heraclitus]

Lol at uncyclopedia:

"Catholicism is the true version of Christianity. Many vocal supporters of the enemy disagree ardently with this notion, but unfortunately, they are wrong. Catholicism is widely considered to be the wide-screen DVD of religion."

[Imran Siddiqui]