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  • #91
    Following that rationale, the Jews got it right long before the Catholics did.


    ... much to Cartman's distress.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
        Following that rationale, the Jews got it right long before the Catholics did.
        Christianity is a Jewish sect.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #94
          Catholics don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God.
          Given that, why they think so much of Mary is a puzzler.
          I haven't studied the religion, though.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #95
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            Catholics don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God.
            Kinda the basis of the Christian religion regardless of denomination. I'd take whoever told you that with a grain of salt.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #96
              Any Catholic here is certainly free to correct me.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #97
                Originally posted by SlowwHand
                Catholics don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God.
                This is hilariously wrong.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  I haven't studied the religion, though.
                  That's quite clear to me.
                  "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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                  • #99
                    Ok, I Googled it and found I was wrong. I'm not like the rest of you who are never wrong.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • Originally posted by SlowwHand
                      Any Catholic here is certainly free to correct me.
                      Where is Ben when you need him?
                      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                      • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                        This is hilariously wrong.
                        QFT
                        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                          Bible I believe suits the position of the Catholic church very well, especially since we were the ones who put it together.

                          Why else would Protestants have to take books out?
                          Eventhough I'm the first to admit that the RCC is the 'motherchurch' I am a bit suprised by the fact that you claim that you 'putted the Bible together'.

                          I doubt that the current RCC is in line with the RCC of the first centuries.

                          I must say that I'm glad that you switched from 'we wrote it' to 'we put it together'.

                          The fact that you say stuff like: "why else would protestants have to take books out?" shows your total lack of knowledge about theology and church history

                          The RCC and protestant New Testament is equal.
                          The 'extra' books you guys have are in the Old Testament. And as you should know. the Old Testament has not been 'putted together' by the catholics, but by the Jews. It was 'finished' about 2 centuries before Christ.

                          The 'extra' books you guys got aren't in the Hebrew Bible, they're from the Septuagint, the greek translation of the Hebrew Bible.

                          I hope you were aware of that, though I fear you weren't, otherwise you wouldn't have made those funny claims :P

                          That has really been tonned down since the middle ages, today It plays a very minor role in worship.


                          1. Markos asked what protestants protested against. Well, that was one of they key items of the reformation.
                          Yes, it has been toned down, fortunately. But it's still too much

                          But I would argue that if it where not for the saints Chatolicism would have had far less converts from the polytheistic peoples of Africa and the Americas.


                          If it's just about 'converting people' then the RCC may win. I doubt that 'converting people with all means' is a good thing. I'd rather have people to have faith in the christian msg, then letting them convert because our saints look like their gods.

                          Also if you belive in heaven, why not ask a guy living in heaven to ask God really really nicley for stuff you want. The hope is that saints being saints will spend more time praying than you will.


                          It's extra biblical.
                          Not to mention that Jesus says that one shall not pray towards anybody but God.
                          Proxy-praying..... Jesus came to earth so that we could talk to God directly.

                          Oh, the 'saints' aren't able to hear you.
                          It's just left overs from heathen traditions.

                          That was done away a long time ago. But it seems some modern protestant televangelists think it works.


                          It's still practice in the current RCC. People who donate much money get prayed for for a long time after they passed away.

                          But indeed, we protestants aren't perfect either. We do a lot of stupid things as well. I'll be the first to admit that.
                          Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                          Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                          • Originally posted by SlowwHand
                            Ok, I Googled it and found I was wrong. I'm not like the rest of you who are never wrong.
                            Wait, maybe Google was wrong?
                            "lol internet" ~ AAHZ

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                            • Originally posted by SlowwHand
                              Ok, I Googled it and found I was wrong. I'm not like the rest of you who are never wrong.
                              Yes, but that's a pretty BIG error. Akin to thinking Muslims sacrifice pigs to Mohammed.
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                              • Sorry, that was hilarious. I wonder what Slow thought Catholics believed about Jesus?
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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