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Originally posted by MrFun
Well that's nice that you fancy a fascist like Huckabee, JM.
Well that's nice that you fancy a fascist like Huckabee, JM.
I just consider Guiliani more of a fascist.
JM
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I don't.
I just consider Guiliani more of a fascist.
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Yep, the Dems could certainly manage to lose this, pathetic as the GOP candidates seem to me. Well, Romney seems competent, but the Mormon thing is going to hurt him. I think. Hell, I'm no Republican, I can't guess how they'll think. But I never put it past the Democratic Party to lose what should be a sure thing.Comment
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In 1992 Huckabee proposed putting AIDS patients into camps "where they would be isolated". It's hard to see that as anything but a concentration camp. Recently reporters have been asking a lot of questions about Huckabee's concentration camp plan and Hackabee is now desperately trying to back track without saying he's back tracking.
He's claiming that he no longer wants to put them in camps and that scientists didn't know how AIDS was spread in 1992 so he thinks it was a valid idea. The problem is Huckabee is full of crap and we've know exactly how AIDS is spread since the early 1980's. The fact that Huckabee is/was so ignorant only goes to show why we need MORE sex education and not less.
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He said Aids patients should be "isolated" He denys ever saying they should be "locked up". Expect to hear more.Originally posted by MrFun
For real?
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His exact words were "isolated in camps". It's hard to understand how that would work other then as some form of concentration camp a la Churchhill's concentration camps from the Boer War.Originally posted by MrFun
He seriously had no qualms about publicly stating that he would want people with HIV or AIDS rounded up? And he actually used the words "concentration camps" such as what Nazi Germany had?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Oerdin, this is a good thread, what are you trying to do?In 1992 Huckabee proposed putting AIDS patients into camps "where they would be isolated". It's hard to see that as anything but a concentration camp.
That sounds nothing like "concentration camps" any more than orphanages, prisions, or isolation wards are "concentration camps." Is it a misguided policy concept based on nothing real? Yes. Is it Huckabee glueing thumb tacks onto his heels of his jackboots? No.
His exact words were "isolated in camps". It's hard to understand how that would work other then as some form of concentration camp a la Churchhill's concentration camps from the Boer War.
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None of that seems too scary to me. Sounds more like the normal back and forth of a presidential campaign.Originally posted by Alexander I
More on why Huckabee is the scary choice for Republican candidate.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071208/...ee_spotlight_6;_ylt=AvvzzTDKKtemT6iNndZXmBnXbuRFI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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thats cause you probably think waterboarding a couple of terrorists is "fascist"Originally posted by Jon Miller
I don't.
I just consider Guiliani more of a fascist.
JM
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Well, coupled with his AIDS comments and militant evangelism, it does to me.Originally posted by DanS
None of that seems too scary to me. Sounds more like the normal back and forth of a presidential campaign.The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
"God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
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So let's get this straight. The whole bill of particulars against Huckabee is the one ad?Originally posted by Alexander I
Here's why Mike Huckabee is scary.
"Huckabee Plays the Religion Card" by Charles Krauthammer
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120601966.htmlI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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heres the actual quote in the news story that blog links to:Originally posted by Oerdin
In 1992 Huckabee proposed putting AIDS patients into camps "where they would be isolated". It's hard to see that as anything but a concentration camp. Recently reporters have been asking a lot of questions about Huckabee's concentration camp plan and Hackabee is now desperately trying to back track without saying he's back tracking.
"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague."
"It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents"
Didnt use the word camps, no sir. Whether it could have meant anything else, I leave for debate."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Yeah, I don't think conservative Christian voters will go for a man who thinks only Mormons go to the after life where they become "man-god beings" and each gets their own personal planet. Mormonism is to nuts even for the other nutters.Originally posted by Elok
Yep, the Dems could certainly manage to lose this, pathetic as the GOP candidates seem to me. Well, Romney seems competent, but the Mormon thing is going to hurt him. I think. Hell, I'm no Republican, I can't guess how they'll think. But I never put it past the Democratic Party to lose what should be a sure thing.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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It's just his analysis of what the advertising campaign actually means. I particularly like this line of thought.Originally posted by DanS
So let's get this straight. The whole bill of particulars against Huckabee is the one ad?
Huckabee has exploited Romney's Mormonism with an egregious subtlety. Huckabee is running a very effective ad in Iowa about religion. "Faith doesn't just influence me," he says on camera, "it really defines me." The ad then hails him as a "Christian leader."
Forget the implications of the idea that being a "Christian leader" is some special qualification for the presidency of a country whose Constitution (Article VI) explicitly rejects any religious test for office. Just imagine that Huckabee were running one-on-one in Iowa against Joe Lieberman. (It's a thought experiment. Stay with me.) If he had run the same ad in those circumstances, it would have raised an outcry. The subtext -- who's the Christian in this race? -- would have been too obvious to ignore, the appeal to bigotry too clear.The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
"God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
"We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
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Thanks LotM, Oerdin's hackery knows no bounds
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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It really is a "read between the lines" ad, I have to say. Somewhat similar to George H.W.'s "Willie Horton" ad in that respect (NOT in the message!!).“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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