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Originally posted by Ramo
The Club for Growth really hates him.
The Club for Growth really hates him.
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What don't they like about him?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Here's an example of teh crazyness:
Evangelicals' USA Today ad affirms SBC for family stance
Posted on Aug 27, 1998 | by Tom Strode.
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--A full-page ad in USA Today Aug. 26 voiced the affirmation of 131 evangelicals to the Southern Baptist Convention that "you are right!" in holding forth the Bible's teachings on marriage.
"At a time when divorce is destroying the fabric of our society, you have taken a bold stand for the biblical principles of marriage and family life. We thank you for your courage," the ad stated. The ad also appeared in the Aug. 22 issue of WORLD, an evangelical magazine based in Asheville, N.C.
The ad was initiated by Dennis Rainey, executive director and co-founder of the FamilyLife ministry division of Campus Crusade for Christ.
Among those signing the USA Today affirmation are Franklin Graham, of Samaritan's Purse ministry, and Anne Graham Lotz, of AnGeL Ministries, two of evangelist Billy Graham's children; Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and his wife, Janet; Prison Fellowship founder Charles Colson and his wife, Patty; Campus Crusade founders Bill and Vonette Bright; Promise Keepers founder Bill McCartney and his wife, Lyndi; Dallas-area African American pastors and popular speakers Tony Evans and T.D. Jakes, along with Evans' wife, Lois; and Joseph Stowell, president of Moody Bible Institute, and his wife, Marti.
The ad notes an expanded list of names of evangelicals supportive of the SBC family stance is posted at the Internet site, www.youareright.org.
SBC President Paige Patterson said he is "profoundly grateful" to Rainey and the other signatories, who described themselves in the USA Today ad as "pastors and lay leaders, civic and business leaders, husbands, wives, fathers and mothers representing a variety of denominations."
Said Patterson, "It does exhibit, in the light of a good deal of contrary criticism, the extent to which the evangelical community does still understand clearly what the Bible says about the family." Patterson is president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, N.C.
Morris H. Chapman, president of the SBC Executive Committee, said, "We are encouraged that many Americans are hearing and responding to God's Word in these matters. It is imperative to maintain the integrity of the family unit."
The SBC family stance was adopted at the June SBC annual meeting in Salt Lake City as a new article to the convention's 1963 Baptist Faith and Message confessional statement.
The SBC article describes marriage as "the uniting of one man and one woman in covenant commitment for a lifetime." It also notes, "The husband and wife are of equal worth before God, since both are created in God's image. … A husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church. … A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ."
The evangelical leaders' USA Today ad states to the Southern Baptist Convention:
"You are right because you recognized that the family was God's idea, not man's, and that marriage is a covenant between one man and one woman for a lifetime.
"You are right because you called husbands to sacrificially love and lead their wives.
"You are right because you called wives to graciously submit to their husband's sacrificial leadership.
"You are right because you affirmed that the husband and wife are of equal worth before God.
"You are right because you reminded us that children are a blessing and heritage from the Lord.
"More importantly, you are right because your statement is based on biblical truth."
Rainey, who is based in Little Rock, Ark., announced during the Christian Booksellers Association annual meeting in Dallas that he was gathering the names of evangelical leaders supportive of the SBC family stance.
In a news conference July 15, Rainey said the "intense firestorm" the SBC stance faced in the national media prompted him to contact a cross-section of other evangelical leaders, both husbands and wives, to sign an affirmation: "I affirm the statement on the family issued by the 1998 Southern Baptist Convention."
Rainey told the media, "… the vast majority of Bible-believing Christians would not only agree with (the SBC) statement, but embrace it unashamedly as the timeless truth of Scripture."
"Today's families," he said, "desperately need spiritual direction, moral guidance and a clear authoritative definition."
Quoting Abraham Lincoln's words, "The strength of a nation lies in the homes of its people," Rainey said the family is "the backbone of the Christian church and of society as a whole. History shows that if any society wants to survive, it must uphold, strengthen and continue to build upon the biblical institutions of marriage and family."
Unfortunately, many Americans "have little or no concept of how to maintain a successful marriage and how to raise children to become responsible adults," Rainey said. "In addition, a growing number of educators, politicians and members of the media are attacking and redefining the family, creating a vast amount of confusion about what a family is. Many people today proclaim that 'family values' are important, but the gradual shift to moral relativism has led to a great debate about what 'family values' ought to be."
An analysis of the biblical doctrines addressed in the SBC family article is being carried in the September issue of SBC LIFE, published by the convention's Executive Committee. The author of the article is Chad Brand, assistant professor of Christian studies at North Greenville College, Tigerville, S.C. Copies of the publication may be requested by calling (615) 244-2355.
Your Republican frontrunner (at least for the next couple weeks), Ben Kenobi..."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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All that's much less controversial than you believe.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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How did you know I was reading this thread, Ramo?
Huckabee's genuine yes, but I'd rather have Thompson from Tennessee. I think you'd like him too. He's more small government then Huckabee, and he seems more up your alley DanS.
As for frontrunner, we've had a few.
Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!Comment
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DanS, do you believe that wives should graciously submit to their husbands' sacrificial leadership?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
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The evangelical leaders' USA Today ad states to the Southern Baptist Convention:
"You are right because you recognized that the family was God's idea, not man's, and that marriage is a covenant between one man and one woman for a lifetime.
"You are right because you called husbands to sacrificially love and lead their wives.
"You are right because you called wives to graciously submit to their husband's sacrificial leadership.
"You are right because you affirmed that the husband and wife are of equal worth before God.
"You are right because you reminded us that children are a blessing and heritage from the Lord.
"More importantly, you are right because your statement is based on biblical truth."
/me is very sad
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As for frontrunner, we've had a few.
It's a two man race right now between Huck and Romney. McCain has an outside chance in NH if Romney implodes. Giuliani has an outside chance on Super Tuesday if the early caucuses/primaries are split. Thompson's probably hopeless."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Yes, of course. But let's be real here -- there are many permutations of power sharing that fall under the letter and spirit of this dictum.Originally posted by Ramo
DanS, do you believe that wives should graciously submit to their husbands' sacrificial leadership?
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Fred's ahead of Romney and McCain nationally. He's been ahead of McCain since he entered, and just passed Romney now since Huckabee entered the race. Romney has been sinking like a stone.
It's either Huckabee, RudyG or Fred.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!Comment
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Originally posted by Ramo
As for frontrunner, we've had a few.
It's a two man race right now between Huck and Romney. McCain has an outside chance in NH if Romney implodes. Giuliani has an outside chance on Super Tuesday if the early caucuses/primaries are split. Thompson's probably hopeless.
WTF? If Huck wins Iowa, I think the GOP establishment chucks Romney and makes a goal line stand around Giuliani. Theres too much at stake."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Sigh.
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Romney is doing well in Iowa. If he can win Iowa, he gets momentum that could help propel him to victory. Thompson's national numbers matter nought if he loses big in Iowa. He'll be seen as unelectable and be cast aside.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Fred's ahead of Romney and McCain nationally. He's been ahead of McCain since he entered, and just passed Romney now since Huckabee entered the race. Romney has been sinking like a stone.
It's either Huckabee, RudyG or Fred.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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It's amazing how many non-Republicans think they know what will happen in the GOP race.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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You don't have to be part of a party to know basic primary politics
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There is a reason why Iowa and New Hampshire so strongly protect their early primaries.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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