When the Soviet Union comes back.

[Az]

The education system was never that great in the soviet union, it was always brainwashing people.

yes, unlike the US , of course. Education is just a fancy word for brainwashing , and vice versa.

oh, and Fez , chill .

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Dalgetti
Dinodoc : so , to disprove it you post an alledged letter from the russian civil war?

I just like the text of the letter. How can you not get enthralled by quotes like "let's choke and strangle those blood-sucking kulaks"?

I also like to go back to the begining of an enterprise to judge its worth and not start at some preselected midpoint in order to arrive at a rigged conclusion.

[Bereta_Eder]

in the beggining of time people were eating bananas moneypenny
much much much much later somewhere in a jungle some new neadertals were carrying black slaves and then fighting a bloody war.

[Bereta_Eder]

and they still haven't wisen up

they are gonna have to though eventually

[Bereta_Eder]

In other news, USSR was cool for keeping the world balance against the american menace.

A balance of terror is far better than the imblalance (-insanity) of terror we live now.

not to mention that the vultures are now trying to take apart everything Europe has built thanks to the USSR "spectre".

There is no counter force now to make them crap their pants.

[Az]

oh , common , paiktis . I am trying to have an intellegent discussion and you messed it up by your trolling.

now , because of you , I have to go to bed.



good night

[Bereta_Eder]

i am a (bored) force of good

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Fez


No they werent. They were more like socialists who wanted heavy government interference with the economy.

Nazi Germany was a planned capitalist economy. So, yes it wasn´t capitalist per se. But the state didn´t own the means of production or collect the profit. That was left to the industrialists like Krupp and others like him.

Like who? Can I name any that the US supported that executed twenty million of their own people?

Maybe if you add them all up? I don´t know, I haven´t found reliable figures for this. Some dictators that the US has supported is Suharto (Indonesia), The Shah of Iran, The talibans, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet, Somoza (Nicaragua), Batista (Cuba), etc. etc...

[Bereta_Eder]

not trolling though.

elaboration.

now the US can go bomb whoever it pleases for whatever crap reason it puts forth.

could it do that when the USSR was still around? no.

imbalance of terror.

it still tries to top governments (like in venezuela) too.


was the social welfare system of Europe built because the greedy evil blood sucking worker killer capitalists were afraid that the people would riot against their exploitation and join the SU? yes

will the capitalists now try to suck the people dry again? yes

in the US they are working 12 hours a day for sh!t pay and they say thank you on top of that. completely brainwashed.

this might happen in Europe too since there is not the USSR counterforce.
so no trolling, perspective.

[Bereta_Eder]

to put a favorite Andreas Papandreou quote here:

The numbers prosper, the people do not. (what fooking good is GDP when people have no health care, there are people homeless etc etc etc).

so let me say again: EU! (the socialist way)

that's all.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Dalgetti

yes, unlike the US , of course. Education is just a fancy word for brainwashing , and vice versa.

oh, and Fez , chill .

I am sorry but I am anti-communist for a very good reason.

Some dictators that the US has supported is Suharto (Indonesia), The Shah of Iran, The talibans, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet, Somoza (Nicaragua), Batista (Cuba), etc. etc...

Suharto was corrupt and the US stopped supporting him after a while like Noriega. The Shah of Iran was not that bad but his plans were not on track. The talibans no... the US supported the mujahedins. The taliban were an extremist government the US never supported. Sure some of the taliban is some mujahedin commanders but Pashtun. The US mostly supported Uzbeks and Tajiks during the Soviet Occupation whom resisted. Pinochet did well to the chilean economy and made it grow and so did Somoza and Batitista to their economies. Under Somoza the economy was actually growing significantly, the same with Batitista with his country.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by paiktis22
it still tries to top governments (like in venezuela) too.

It didn't topple Venezuela. It just didn't.

Paiktis, your ignorance is too great to be expressed on this forum.

[Dan Severn]

Russia is just as poor now as it has always been. By western standards, the government is still repressive. However, nowadays the government could never get away with killing tens of millions of its own citizens. It's a good thing the soviet empire is gone. It won't be back.

BTW: Lenin's surrender in the first world war forced germany to occupy the ukraine. This may have caused its final offensive in the west to fail.

[Heresson]

No they can't. It infringes on the law of supply and demand therefore is illogical. Therefore it causes severe lack of supply and could cause massive shortages.

You're a doctriner. Everything can be done!

"In other news, USSR was cool for keeping the world balance against the american menace."

SU was even worse than US in that matter.
Don't dare to say to anyone from eastern Europe that
"SU was cool" in that matter.

"that's what brainwas... I mean education is for. "

Yes! But there are too many people needed here and they need to have specific qualifications... Communists aren't that numberous and nor everyone of them can be a teacher.
And even if it could be done, You'd have to separate the children from their capitalistic parents' influence.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Heresson
You're a doctriner. Everything can be done!

You remind me of the PSOE. Everything can be done! 30% unemployment can be done too! That was in Spain pal. The Socialists literally ****ed up my country and it had to be fixed by the Conservative Popular Party. Now after the PP is done my people have jobs... and a single digit unemployment rate!