When the Soviet Union comes back.

[JohnT]

Fez, the problem is your arguing style. Abrasive, rude, condescending, and, at times, willfully ignorant. You accuse me of spitting in your face... well, that is exactly what your debating style does to your arguments.... you might as well just call everybody who disagrees with you an ******* as to save the time and effort of dissuading them from your position.

[Bereta_Eder]

The thread title reminds me of the song: When the Saints go Marching In

[Ecthy]

quit whining, yid

[chequita guevara]

Hi, JohnT!

Did I tell you guys what a great guy he is? Well he is.

[Ecthy]

Chris is quite similar to that, BTW.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by JohnT
Fez, the problem is your arguing style. Abrasive, rude, condescending, and, at times, willfully ignorant. You accuse me of spitting in your face... well, that is exactly what your debating style does to your arguments.... you might as well just call everybody who disagrees with you an ******* as to save the time and effort of dissuading them from your position.

My arguments may be condescending but they certainly are not abrasive, rude or ignorant. My debating style does nothing to affect teh quality of my arguments.

Quite whining about something that obviously isn't a fact.

[JohnT]

And the real irritating thing is that ideologically, we sit on the same side of the fence (well, I'm a little closer to it than he is, but still...)

Thanks Chegitz!!!

[Ming]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
Chris is quite similar to that, BTW.

And you felt it was important to bring him up WHY?

You either stop your crap against Chris, or you are toast for awhile. He's not even in this discussion, yet you feel it is necessary to attempt to insult him again.

No more warnings. Next time you insult Chris, you are toast. And if you don't PM me saying you understand, I will suspend you until you do.

Enough of your crap

[Zoid]

Originally posted by LaRusso


You need one more zero there. I am sure it was closer to 200 million

Excuse me?? If he sent that many people to Gulag, there´d be noone left...

[chequita guevara]

I think he was being sarcastic.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
KX - that strongly reminds me of Siro's debating style even when he's not with his back against the wall

As well as some other anti-Israeli posters Dalgetti mentioned. And why did you feel a need to drag Siro into this as well? He´s not even in the debate AFAIK...

[Zoid]

Che, are you sure? It´s not the first time I´ve heard it...

[Ecthy]

When did Dalgetti ever mention anti-Israeli posters?

And I just brought him up as an example, because some people *cough* appear to be quite blind on one eye

The matter has been closed by higher authority anyway, but it's always a good move to stand by the big one's knees and shout along

[Dan Severn]

Originally posted by LaRusso


interesting point. russia will always be worse than its western counterparts. we can disagree about tens of millions, but the perspective is there...they are just as bad by today's standards today as they were by past standards in 1930's

ens of millions of political dissidentswere killed by Stalin's purges, whether you are prepared to believe it or not.

But I think you get the gist of what I'm saying. Russia has always been a relatively poor land, and poverty invites oppression.

Fez, capitalism is not god. Free market does not necessarily entail huge corporations. My beef with socialism is that it indebts people to the government. A powerful government inhibits freedom. The question one should ask is, what justification does any government have? It is only the pleasure of the people. Furtheremore, one person may not control another. Why should millions of people do the same to the general population?

[chequita guevara]

It's the first time I've heard it. There's no way that 200 million Soviets could have been sent to the gulags. There weren't 200 million Soviets to send. Anyway, the rolleyes seems to indicate he was being dismissive of Fex (which is so hard, I know ).

Oh, so facts now. There were never more than about five million people in the gulags at any given time, mostly during and immediately after WWII. Most people were there for ordinary crimes, such as theft, assault, murder, etc. Most people served their sentence and then were released. Bascially, the gulags were the Soviet prisons. Kinda like if all Federal prisons were in Alaska. . . . Hmmmmmm.