Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn has just been shot

[Stefu]

Malcolm X was shot, wasn't he? About McKinley, you said "last century", and I think it happened in 1900-2000. Some deranged-type character tried to shoot FDR before his 1933 inauguration, I believe, and Ford's shooting by some fomer member of Manson's family, don't remember the details.

[Ramo]

Can't say I'll shed any tears for the man, but assassination is almost always counter-productive.

[Grrr]

Weg met die Rechtse Rakker.

[The Mad Monk]

Malcom X was indeed shot. Malcom believed that the Black Muslims were going to kill him, and Alex Haley (writer of the Malcom X autobiography) certainly pointed the finger at Elijah Mohammed and company.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Huey Long. Malcolm X. McKinley. Theodore Roosevelt (attempt.) Franklin Roosevelt (attempt.) Gerald Ford (attempt.)

Ok, Huey... Malcolm was shot? McKinley is over 100 years. Roosevelt, ok.

FDR and Ford?!

Ford TWICE! Once by Squeaky Fromme (the Manson family figure Stefu mentions) and once by Sarah Jane Moore a Missouri (I think) housewife. How's that for bizarre?

The attempt on FDR's life actually killed the mayor of Chicago, Anton Cermak. There are conspiracy theorists who contend that Cermak was the target all along (these were the days of Al Capone, after all).

Also, Puerto Rican nationalists attempted to kill Harry Truman when he was living at Blair House while the White House was being renovated. I think this one stands as the only attempt on a Prez with something other than a gun (they had knives, IIRC). Edit: Actually, they may have been trying to kidnap him, not kill him. Now I'm not sure.

Finally, Nobody seems to have mentioned Bobby Kennedy (edit: yes they did; I missed it) or the attempt on George Wallace. That brings the total to 11, or 12 if you count Ford twice.

[Imran Siddiqui]

About McKinley, you said "last century", and I think it happened in 1900-2000.

I said last 100 years.

I mentioned Both Kennedy's.

Ok, fine, we like to try to kill our leaders .

[Fidel]

Originally posted by Oldenbarnevelt


I have no time for any anti-democratic, anti-secular influences. I do not want to compromise with Muslims or anyone else on the equality of men and women, hetero- and homosexuals, the freedom of speech and opinion and other Western values.
As far as I'm concerned, all cultural influences are welcome, as long as they don't threaten in any way the principles of the secular, democratic, constitutional state. The countries that you mention do not form such a threat.

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amen
that is why i enjoyed netherlands and dutch way of life
it is perfectly legitimate to say 'we will decide who will immigrate'. netherlands has no obligation to solve welfare problems of the world. why he was branded 'extreme right', i do not know. i reckon its time for some postmodernist political brands instead of the old horseshoe system. i mean, he was gay and for MJ legalization. how right wing is THAT?

troll part: i expect some mass rallies in france in support of dutch democracy, against violence, etc. etc.

[laurentius]

I'm sorry too(for what it counts) for his death. I was extremely bad thing for everyone.

[Dr. Stiby]

Dutch posters might want to take a look at this site, it's just extremely scary what people are saying about the muslims and/or left-wing activists supposedly (to them) behind the murder.

[Fidel]

well they branded him a fascist for no reason. finally someone believed and killed him

[Dr. Stiby]

Even though I don't support his views, I do believe he was sincere and I don't believe he was a facist.
A few of his followers are racists, though.

[Locutus]

Although he make some remarks which were IMO racist in nature ("Islam is a backwards culture"), I don't believe he was actually a racist or a fascist.

The things that some Fortuyn supporters are saying are quite scary indeed, but for some reason I can't say I'm very surprised...

[Bereta_Eder]

He was a "weird" apple.

Definitely not right wing as traditionally right wingers go...

He was not "conservative".


One thing that I see is underlining every such personality (like Le Pen too) in Europe these days is that they are all anti-immigration.

I suspect Greece will soon have one of these people too.

[Bereta_Eder]

BTW I don't think it was a "political assassination". This is so "pasee" now in Europe.

Maybe it was some crazy man who took the whole thing too seriously. Just a ordinary criminal personality which used it as an excuse to do what he/she did.

[Dr. Stiby]

There's some more information about the murderer of Fortuyn.
It was just released that he's a member of a moderate environmental activist group, apart from being a married father.
The link between environmental activism and Fortuyn is very unclear.