Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn has just been shot

[Ned]

I don't know if you guys caught the bit about the opera, but the performers were given death threats by muslims in order that they not perform the opera. I am amazed that the folks here can talk about Pim being the threat to violence in Holland. Pim, after all, was killed. Ned

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
[troll]And despite having a far smaller black population here, we'd still get a black PM/president before the US does [/troll]

Yeah and it only took one assassination to make it possible. Way to go Netherlands! [/sarcasm]

On a side note, how many people would have to die for Colin Powell to be President? I think it is four (President, Vice President, President Pro Tempore, and Speaker of the House) but I'm not really sure.

[Fidel]

well about 20 m rednecks too

[Drake Tungsten]

If rednecks are what is needed, America will have a black president in no time!

[Ari Rahikkala]

I'm sorry for making a comment that almost nobody will understand and most Finns will find either in bad taste or irrelevant, but in any case, a song lyric:

Joku ampui poliitikkoa!
Joku on ampunut kansan johtajaa!
Nyt kansa on yksin.
Kuka oli se, joka ampui?
Kuka se jota ammuttiin?
On niin
niin kylmää ja sameaa,
aurinkoa ei näy,
karhea tuuli kirveltää...
Osuiko pääministeriin
vai osuiko itse presidenttiin,
kenet poissaolevaksi kirjattiin?
Kuka oli se, joka ampui?
Kuka se, jota ammuttiin?
On niin
savuista ja sekavaa
aurinkoa ei näy,
karhea tuuli kirveltää...
Enää ei tarvita
Eugenia tai Lee Harveyta
kun poliitikot mittaavat
poliitikkoja, ja johtavat
vetävät toisiaan nopeammin
ja nyt huomataan:
tämä on tyly puhe.
Tämä on tylyä puhetta!
Ovesta syöksyy
poliitikko pistooli kädessä:
"Nyt en enää kuuntele!
Nyt se on loppu!
Nyt ei enää neuvotella,
nyt se on loppu!
Nyt minä tapan!
Reikä päähän!
Raato maahan!"
Tämä on tylyä puhetta.
Ja illalla kotona
Äiti syleilee poikaansa,
vaihdetaan puhdas solmio ja paita,
syödään voiton piiraita.
Enää ei tarvita
Eugenia tai Lee Harveyta:
poliitikon kuudesti laukeava
puhuu tylyä puhetta.
Oppositio nuolee haavojaan:
sihteeri on menetetty, ja
on kuultu puhuttavan ,
että pääministeri
ei kävele enää koskaan.

[Stefu]

Mikäs pirun biisi tuo nyt oli?

[Saint Marcus]

uhm...yeah.

Is this event pushing you to the right, Mark?

me and millions of other dutchmen.


(not conservative right)

[Oldenbarnevelt]

Originally posted by LightEning
I'm sorry for making a comment that almost nobody will understand and most Finns will find either in bad taste or irrelevant, but in any case, a song lyric: (...)

This is not much of a recommendation...

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[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Stefu
Malcolm X was shot, wasn't he? About McKinley, you said "last century", and I think it happened in 1900-2000. Some deranged-type character tried to shoot FDR before his 1933 inauguration, I believe, and Ford's shooting by some fomer member of Manson's family, don't remember the details.

It took a Finn to remember Ford

GERALD FORD may have begun national healing after the Watergate scandal, but that didn't stop two different women from taking potshots at him. On 5 September 1975, Charles Manson devotee Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme waited for Ford outside a Sacramento, California hotel and pulled a Colt .45 just as he reached to shake her hand. Fromme pulled the trigger but the loaded gun didn't fire -- she had neglected to put a round in the chamber. Secret Servicemen tackled her before she could fire a second time. Fromme was sentenced to life in prison.

Barely two weeks later, on September 22 in San Francisco, 45-year-old Sara Jane Moore yanked a pistol from her purse and fired on Ford from a distance of about 10 meters. She missed, in part due to a bystander who jostled her arm. She, too, was sentenced to life in prison. Ford was unharmed but also was unseated by Jimmy Carter in the 1976 elections.

[Tom201]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
uhm...yeah.

Is this event pushing you to the right, Mark?

me and millions of other dutchmen.


(not conservative right)

Amazing how little it takes...

I dont see any reason why I (or anyone else) should change any believes, just cose some maniac kills Fortuyn

[Locutus]

I think that for the next election we will see a swing to the right (i.e. LPF will win a landslide victory), but in the long run I agree with Tom, I don't think many people will change their ideology over this, that's silly. I certainly won't/haven't: so far I've always voted either D66 or GroenLinks and this event certainly won't change this.

[Dr Strangelove]

Has there been anything in the news yet about why this man shot Fortuyn? He's been in custody overnight now, so surely he's been thoroughly questioned.

[Bereta_Eder]

maybe he doesn;t know either.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by paiktis22
maybe he doesn;t know either.

Then he should be able to plead insanity.

[Locutus]

He's still not talking...