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Yes, it's that time again, Vince! ACS Political Compass / 2005 edition!

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  • This is a stupid question. That is an advantage of a one-party state, but it's not an advocation of one.
    I disagree, it's one of the few disadvantages of the one-party state. For example, take China under Mao and the Great Leap Forward. Do you think it would've happened if there would've been any lengthy arguments in the three branches of goverment (all directly under control of Mao then)?

    Kucinich, very good points there.
    Last edited by RGBVideo; January 6, 2005, 18:39.

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    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
      That's sort of the point.

      Do you value efficiency over public discourse?

      It seems obvious to me.
      Neither of those things are nearly as important as good policy. The question should determine if you think one party systems make better or worse policy.
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      • There is no way BK is more libertarian then me. No way in hell.
        We can go over this, question by question, and you'll see why this is.
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        • That's an interesting question, Kid.

          Do you agree with this statement:

          "One party systems produce superior policies."
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          • How can you continue to support a group of people who discriminate against americans and want a lot of them dead?


            Because I want them dead too?
            Only feebs vote.

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            • Originally posted by Agathon
              Again, the test is meant to be general. If it suited you guys, most people wouldn't see the questions as relevant and wouldn't take the test.
              People wouldn't see the relevence of "Do you support laws against sex out of wedlock?"

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              • People wouldn't see the relevence of "Do you support laws against sex out of wedlock?"


                Of course they would, just as they would see the relevance of the other questions. Even if they didn't it doesn't matter for the accuracy of the test.
                Only feebs vote.

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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                  That's an interesting question, Kid.

                  Do you agree with this statement:

                  "One party systems produce superior policies."
                  Nope
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                  • Originally posted by Kidicious
                    How could he throw commies out of helocopters if he weren't a fascist?
                    That's standard practice for commies/socialists if those thrown out are of another faction than his own.
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                    • Originally posted by Kidicious

                      There is one big flaw in this. It demands that decisions made by a one-party state are the right ones, but history has proven well that that isn't the case - quite opposite. With democracy there are at least a chance to stop the worst mistakes.
                      No. It assumes that neither one party systems or multiparty systems come to better decisions, but that one party systems make decisions with less delay.
                      Disagree. Wether you are a onepartyjunkie or ekstremist democrat and don't want to lie, you has to agree to the statement which probably will make you something like a totalitarian marxist which doesn't make sense for the ekstremist democrat. Therefore the question must implicitly state that those desicions made by a one-party state also are the right.

                      edit : damn quotes.
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                      • Originally posted by Agathon
                        People wouldn't see the relevence of "Do you support laws against sex out of wedlock?"


                        Of course they would, just as they would see the relevance of the other questions. Even if they didn't it doesn't matter for the accuracy of the test.
                        Except in one case you're asking about things that are statistically correlated with their ideology, and in the other case your asking them WHAT THEIR IDEOLOGY IS (or a small part of it). So yes, it's more accurate.

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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                          We can go over this, question by question, and you'll see why this is.
                          I'm neutral on abortion, am pro-gay marriage, and do not care about sex outside of marriage. I just don't see how you can be anymore socially libertarian then me.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • Originally posted by St Leo
                            You misunderstand the term. Social Libertarians are those who support civil liberties and human rights, not the really stupid US anarcho-capitalists who call themselves Libertarian.
                            That definition is different from every political science book I've ever read.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • Originally posted by Giancarlo
                              I'm neutral on abortion, am pro-gay marriage, and do not care about sex outside of marriage. I just don't see how you can be anymore socially libertarian then me.
                              One could be, for example, favourable or strongly favourable to abortion rights, instead of being merely neutral?
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                              • Originally posted by Spiffor

                                One could be, for example, favourable or strongly favourable to abortion rights, instead of being merely neutral?
                                Well I could say I'm against abortion except in cases where the mother's health is at risk or if it was a case of rape or incest.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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