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  • Originally posted by Al'Kimiya
    Nah.. I like discipline
    But did you agree with claims such as:
    Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races
    All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.
    People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.
    A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
    Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
    I would not wish to send my child to a school that did not instill religious values.
    Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.

    ?

    (Edit: and yes, it's possible to score very high on the authoritarianism scale. I entered Taliban mode and got a 9.54 )
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    • It's not a question if children should be able to keep secrets. It's a question if children keeping secrets from their parents is a natural occurance. This can be confirmed easily through simple observation.
      Yeah, it's poor questions like this that mitigate my authoritarian stances.

      This question shows that the test believes natural impulses ought to be done (which is a leftist assumption,) and one of the primary reasons why so many slope to the left off this poll.

      A better question, would be to ask:

      Should children keep secrets from their parents?

      Or another, should gay people act on their sexual impulses?

      That would get a double negative for me, rather than a double positive.
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      • Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races
        disagree

        All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.
        agree

        People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.
        stongly agree

        A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
        strongly agree

        Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
        agree

        I would not wish to send my child to a school that did not instill religious values.
        strongly disagree

        Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
        agree
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        • Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races
          Strongly disagree

          All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.
          Strongly disagree

          People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.
          Not hard. Strongly disagree.

          A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
          Strongly disagree.

          Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
          Disagree.

          I would not wish to send my child to a school that did not instill religious values.
          This is a poor question. The question should be worded in the positive:

          "I want to send my child to a school that instills religious values."

          Which elicits a strongly agree from me.

          Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
          Again, strongly agree.
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          • Al Kimiya:

            The religious education question is a double negative. So by disagreeing, you have a triple negative, and hence, do not wish your child to go to a school that teaches religious education.

            People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.

            stongly agree
            What disabilities do you consider 'serious?'
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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
              Al Kimiya:

              The religious education question is a double negative. So by disagreeing, you have a triple negative, and hence, do not wish your child to go to a school that teaches religious education.

              What disabilities do you consider 'serious?'
              I understand the question. I'm not very religious myself and while I do understand some of the benefits of such a schooling system (discipline related), I do not wish to impose a specific faith to the child.

              With serious disabilities I consider mental and physical illnesses serious enough to hinder good parenting. There should never be the situation where the child has to parent the parent. I think there should also be some kind of parenting test before allowing people to be parents, kind of like a drivers license.
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              • A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
                This is a stupid question. That is an advantage of a one-party state, but it's not an advocation of one.
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                • Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
                  This is a stupid question. That is an advantage of a one-party state, but it's not an advocation of one.
                  Depends. I consider the arguments inherent to a democracy to be a good thing for example. Wiping them out, in my view, is a disadvantage.
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                  • With serious disabilities I consider mental and physical illnesses serious enough to hinder good parenting.
                    That's an interesting response.

                    I am hard of hearing, and find it difficult to hear people in another room from me, same as my dad, and his sister.

                    So what they do is they don't let their kids out of their sight.

                    I agree with you, that it should never happen for a child to parent his parents, while still a child, but it does happen, and often has nothing to do with a physical disability.

                    I think there should also be some kind of parenting test before allowing people to be parents, kind of like a drivers license.
                    Or what? The state would take their children away?
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                    • I didn't like that question either Immortal Wombat.
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                      • How about this:

                        One party systems are better for democracy, in expediting the decisions of the state.
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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                          Or what? The state would take their children away?
                          Well, some kind of punishment must be in order to minimize the occurances (a fine, prison/castration for repeating). Regarding the child, I think it should be adopted rather than aborted. There are probably "good" parents unable to have children of their own.
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                          • Well, some kind of punishment must be in order to minimize the occurances. Regarding the child, I think it should be adopted rather than aborted. There are probably "good" parents unable to have children of their own.
                            True, but an unintended consequence of your decision is going to be the forced abortion of these children, because of the clause of 'inheritable' defects.

                            Why allow their children to be born at all, when they are afflicted with the same disorder?
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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                              True, but an unintended consequence of your decision is going to be the forced abortion of these children, because of the clause of 'inheritable' defects.

                              Why allow their children to be born at all, when they are afflicted with the same disorder?
                              I'm not only talking about inheritable disorders here. I think economy is an important criteria, as well as (a non-existant?) criminal record, drug/alcohol abuse related things etc..

                              Forced abortions are a symptom of a larger problem with discipline that must be dealt with in other ways. I'm not against abortions if they have a good excuse (underage parenthood, rape).
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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                                How about this:

                                One party systems are better for democracy, in expediting the decisions of the state.
                                It's the same thing. I don't understand how this determines if you are authoritarian or libertarian social.
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