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  • #76
    Originally posted by Kidicious


    Don't buy the houses ****er. You know other people need them to live in. Why the **** would you buy them, unless you are a ****er.
    Losing so bad you have to resort to calling him a ****er.



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    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Kuciwalker
      Because even if he doesn't buy them, the other people won't be able to live in them?
      Thus you show your complete ingnorance of economics.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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      • #78
        'zazel - I suppose, if you wanna look at it that way, yes. The difference again tho, is that in a capitalist society, the person in question uses the capital to PURCHASE assets. Ownership.

        This is the piece of the puzzle that is missing from the command ec. approach, and what makes it fundamentally different.

        Kid: Ohhh....gonna make it personal now, are we? 'k. I've got thick skin, so yes, let's continue to use me as an example.

        And you should join the psychic hotline with that direct feed into my brain. Since you seem to know my thoughts and motives and all that.

        Amazing.

        Truthfully, I bought the houses because I thought I could do well at it. I thought I could fix them up and rent them out for cheaper than the prevailing market prices, and thus, attract people who WANTED to rent (believe it or not, the people renting my houses out don't WANT to own a place of their own....too much upkeep and they don't want to be bothered).

        Different strokes for different folks.

        I give them what they want at a price that beats the market, and everybody wins.

        I know that must chaffe you to no end, given your hatred for capitalism (and by extension I would imagine, given your tone and venom, of me), but that is the plain truth.

        You can rant and gripe all day long, but it won't change the facts.

        Also true is the fact that 3% down can get you into a primary residence. There are homes for sale here starting at 60k. $1800 down, by the way, with monthly payments right around three hundred (average rents here are $550, so you can see why the rental housing market is a bit softish)

        So yeah, pretty much anybody who wants one at that price (even people working doublels at micky d's) can get into something.

        Are you having a bad day?

        -=Vel=-
        The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Tuberski


          Losing so bad you have to resort to calling him a ****er.



          ACK!
          No. I call him that because he is one. I could care less about winning or losing. He's a ****er who tries to act like he's helping people.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Kidicious
            Thus you show your complete ingnorance of economics.
            ...

            Did you notice how, if there were NO speculators, the cost would go down $72?

            I'm sure there's a whole RAFT of people who are 72$ short of owning a home. What a bastard

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Kidicious


              No. I call him that because he is one. I could care less about winning or losing. He's a ****er who tries to act like he's helping people.
              You really should have read the post right above yours.

              I am one of those people that doesn't want to buy a house.

              $550 for rent of a house is really quite cheap.

              ACK!
              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Velociryx
                Kid: Ohhh....gonna make it personal now, are we? 'k. I've got thick skin, so yes, let's continue to use me as an example.
                YES, IT'S ****ING PERSONAL *******! WHAT THE **** DO YOU THINK! MAYBE YOU WILL GET A ****ING CLUE *******!
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #83

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Kidicious


                    YES, IT'S ****ING PERSONAL *******! WHAT THE **** DO YOU THINK! MAYBE YOU WILL GET A ****ING CLUE *******!
                    Did Vel run over your cat or something?

                    Sad.

                    ACK!
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                    • #85
                      Yes that's what it is moron. He ran over my cat. *******.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #86
                        So now you would tell me...dictate to me what I can or cannot do with the fruits of my own labor?

                        The money I WORKED for?

                        Would it not be simpler to look after your own affairs, and be content to let me look after mine?

                        Isn't that the essence of freedom?

                        It seems rather boorish to demand to stick your nose into everyone's business all the time. To demand to know exactly what everyone's doing at all times, and if you don't like it, to dictate to them what they can and cannot do. How to live, where to work....this is all starting to come full circle, see?

                        You don't know what's in my head. You don't know my motives (tho you do a fine job of pretending that you do and assuming the very worst). You don't know the folks renting from me, nor their motives for doing so. And yet, despite this total lack of information, you make the leap of faith and assume that I must have dragged these marginal people off the street and forced them at gunpoint to live in my home, and pay me exhorbitant rents that far exceed the prevailing market price and the greater bulk of their meager paychecks because I am an evil and wretched man.

                        NOTHING could be further from the truth.

                        One family is military. They won't be here long but they don't know how long, and they don't want the hassle of buying a home here and having to sell it later. The place I offered them is only a little more than post housing, and significantly bigger, with a fenced in back yard.

                        The other guy is a solitary type. Software developer. He doesn't want the hassle of maintenance and upkeep, so prefers to rent, rather than own, and he makes more than enough money to buy if he wanted to.

                        He chooses not to.

                        We made a deal.

                        A mutually agreeable deal.

                        Does that sound particularly mosterous?

                        -=Vel=-
                        The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Kidicious
                          Yes that's what it is moron. He ran over my cat. *******.



                          Have you ever tried BAN roll-on?



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                          Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                          • #88
                            'zazel - I suppose, if you wanna look at it that way, yes. The difference again tho, is that in a capitalist society, the person in question uses the capital to PURCHASE assets. Ownership.

                            Actually by pointing out "purchasing", ownership isn't the word that you wanted to imply, since the organization, be it "the government", "the corporation", or the "enterpreneur" will all own it. The difference would be the way it would be created from capital. The capital may come in form of raw products, or human labour in it's various forms, or it may come in currency, that could buy all these things. After all, purchasing a ready economic infrastructure is just changing hands in a hope to optimize it and make it more profitable than it was, and the capital will be used somewhere else, by the previous owner, probably to build some new infrastructure, or maybe to destroy the capital, wasting it on candy.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #89
                              Azazel - capital can also refer to machines - say a factory. Hiring people to work in the factory would be application of capital.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Tuberski





                                Have you ever tried BAN roll-on?



                                ACK!
                                Like I really want to talk to you *******s!
                                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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