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**Tuberski** · December 12, 2004, 18:49

Originally posted by Kidicious

This is acting stupid. You are admitting that the problem is demand for houses. So you know all about scarcity. But you don't want to admit that people buying houses to rent and not to live in contributes to the problem and raises rents. That's acting stupid. And now you are just acting stupid by saying that where Vel live is different, but you know it's not, otherwise Vel wouldn't be buying houses to rent there.

Of course he would, housing that is not being sold when there is a surplus of housing brings no money to anyone.

There are some people that contribute to the scarcity problem in California, but you can't contribute to a scarcity problem where one doesn't exist. Which is the case with Vel.

He already told you that buying a house there is cheaper than renting, because there are a lot of houses available.

The only way to look at it is that either:

1) The people renting from Vel don't want to own a home.

or,

2)The people renting the home don't have good enough credit to buy a house on there own. In which case, Vel's renting them a house serves them 2 purposes:

a) It gives them a place to live besides under a bridge or in a car.

b) It allows them to build up a better credit rating so that they can buy a house in the future.

It also gives them someone that may be willing to sell to them when they are ready.

ACK!

**Kuciwalker** · December 12, 2004, 18:50

Originally posted by Kidicious
Incoherent babbling.

Did kiddy-widdy fail math class?

You aren't as stupid to think that I'm talking about people who want to rent so don't act like it.

What if there IS someone who wants to rent?

There are people who want to drink alcohol. There are people who want to do many things that you may think they shouldn't. Why won't you let them?

Az · December 12, 2004, 18:50

nice discussion, I'll be back tomorrow. good night everyone.

**Kidlicious** · December 12, 2004, 18:50

Vel,

It's very simple. There are people out there who want to own there own home. You have a home that they could own, but you don't sell it. You rent it instead. Now don't act like you are just helping yourself at no cost to other people.

**Kidlicious** · December 12, 2004, 18:52

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Did kiddy-widdy fail math class?

No. You did. Let me spell it out for you. There is x amount of houses to own to live in. Vel buys one of those to rent. Now there is x-1. Get it dummy?

**Kuciwalker** · December 12, 2004, 18:53

Even if he did sell it, they couldn't afford it.

**Kidlicious** · December 12, 2004, 18:54

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Even if he did sell it, they couldn't afford it.

Dummy! If he sold it someone affords it. Jeez. Get your head out of your ass.

**Velociryx** · December 12, 2004, 18:54

'zazel - agreed...but if a peaceful revolution occurs (communist party elected president, for example) I seriously doubt it'll be in my lifetime. If I keep goading Kid tho, he might come start the revolution at my house tonight!

Kid: Wasn't it you who called me out for "making the debate personal" last time? Interesting now, since the shoe is on the other foot. And I must say that I'm rather enjoying it. Again, different strokes for different folks I guess.

Incoherent babbling? I showed you mathematically what the price drop would be. Can you not multiply? I'm not sure I can MAKE iti any simpler. But, in typical Kid form, when you don't get the answer you wanted...the one that supports your (bizzare, to say the least!) world view, you pout and ignore that part.

I expect it from you any more.

As to the people who are renting from me....again, hate to dissapoint you but they DO fall into that category, which is why I keep coming back to that point.

Why is that so hard to grasp?

And I just read Tube's latest post...yes, yes yes!

All of those things create VALUE, by the way. All of those things (in addition to the maintenance, upkeep, taxes, etc, etc, etc) are worthy of compensation.

Aren't they?

-=Vel=-

**Tuberski** · December 12, 2004, 18:54

Originally posted by Kidicious
Vel,

It's very simple. There are people out there who want to own there own home. You have a home that they could own, but you don't sell it. You rent it instead. Now don't act like you are just helping yourself at no cost to other people.

Kid,

It's very simple. There is a surplus of housing in Vel's area. He bought the houses because they were not in use.

ACK!

**Kidlicious** · December 12, 2004, 18:55

Originally posted by Tuberski

Kid,

It's very simple. There is a surplus of housing in Vel's area. He bought the houses because they were not in use.

ACK!

There is not a surplus. If there were Vel would not be able to rent.

**Jaguar** · December 12, 2004, 18:56

Originally posted by Velociryx
'zazel - agreed...but if a peaceful revolution occurs (communist party elected president, for example) I seriously doubt it'll be in my lifetime. If I keep goading Kid tho, he might come start the revolution at my house tonight!

Kid: Wasn't it you who called me out for "making the debate personal" last time? Interesting now, since the shoe is on the other foot. And I must say that I'm rather enjoying it. Again, different strokes for different folks I guess.

Incoherent babbling? I showed you mathematically what the price drop would be. Can you not multiply? I'm not sure I can MAKE iti any simpler. But, in typical Kid form, when you don't get the answer you wanted...the one that supports your (bizzare, to say the least!) world view, you pout and ignore that part.

I expect it from you any more.

As to the people who are renting from me....again, hate to dissapoint you but they DO fall into that category, which is why I keep coming back to that point.

Why is that so hard to grasp?

And I just read Tube's latest post...yes, yes yes!

All of those things create VALUE, by the way. All of those things (in addition to the maintenance, upkeep, taxes, etc, etc, etc) are worthy of compensation.

Aren't they?

-=Vel=-

Bull****. **** you, you ****ing ****er liar *****. I hate you. I wish you were dead.

**Kidlicious** · December 12, 2004, 18:56

Originally posted by Azazel
nice discussion, I'll be back tomorrow. good night everyone.

Nity Night Az.

**Kidlicious** · December 12, 2004, 18:57

@ Jaguar

**Velociryx** · December 12, 2004, 18:58

I enjoyed it too, 'zazel...see you tomorrow!

Kid, you stopped making sense about two pages ago...need a cooling off period?

There is a shortage of housing in California. There is a surplus of houses in Columbia, SC. LOTS of houses.

This drives the price down.

It makes renting fairly unattractive, save for those who CAN'T buy (bad credit) or don't want to buy (personal preference).

Get over yourself and this silly desire to dictate other people's lives. Try instead, to get a firm handle on your own, maybe? Make a success there before you go tellin' everyone else how to live? Maybe lead by example?

-=Vel=-

PS to Tubes: You are on a ROLL tonight!

**Kidlicious** · December 12, 2004, 18:59

Originally posted by Velociryx
Kid: Wasn't it you who called me out for "making the debate personal" last time? Interesting now, since the shoe is on the other foot. And I must say that I'm rather enjoying it. Again, different strokes for different folks I guess.

Renting to people, and acting like you are deserving of riches, and other people deserve poverty is personal to me. It always will be. You can't change that. And I can't make you a communist, because you are a capitalist. It's that simple.

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