Alabama legislator proposes destroying, banning gay books

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by The diplomat


What gay characters? And don't say David and Jonathan. They were not gay.

Obviously, banning gay books is wrong. I believe in free speech. let everyone, pro-gay and anti-gay publish their views and let people read what they want and make up their own minds.

Where do you think the term Sodomy comes from?

[Ben Kenobi]

Oops, Sorry Whaleboy:

The censorship is rarely if ever political. At that level it usually involves violence or sex. Also exclusive political views (i.e. Nazism, homophobia, and others that seek to discriminate).

That's my point. Why should we allow all books to be available at the elementary school level. There are some forms of censorship that are approved of by society.

[Ben Kenobi]

I have yet to see a university where you couldn't get one.

Same here.

For that matter, I have yet to see a public library where you couldn't get one. I'm between dealing with elementary schools, since Ian's too young and Lisa is a senior in high school (Bibles available in that library).

A Bible in a public school library shouldn't be a problem. Until you have one in every desk and mandate religion class, or decide to back door some particular sectarian religious instruction by making an English class book report out of it.

I'm not saying that should be a part of things. I am saying that a public school library ought to provide a Bible in the library, and that the 'secularity' of the school ought not to prevent the school from offering challeging books.

The problem you seem to be dancing around is how you define a class of books. Should they ban the Ilian because the reason Achilles got so pissed at Hector and got into that dragging the body behind the chariot mutiliation thang was because Patroklos was Achille's lover?

True, I was. But I wanted to see what response I got from the other folks. And I'm pleased to see that I got the response I desired.

[alva]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


Beware, hanging out too much in a sauna, with everyone having his sausage exposed, can do this to you.

If anything, surely it would have the opposite effect.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
The bible has homosexual characters in it.
We should burn it.

The Bible is the most pernicious piece of literature ever written.

[Kuciwalker]

The bill also would ban materials that recognize or promote a lifestyle or actions prohibited by the sodomy and sexual misconduct laws of Alabama.

I thought those were unconstitutional.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Asher
I don't see why. Parents can choose if they want their children to have a religious-influenced publically-funded education.

The ones that do not wish their kids to have religious influences in their elementary school go to the secular schools, while the ones that do wish their kids to have religious influences go to the religious schools.

The bible is hate literature, I wouldn't want my kids reading it in elementary school.

I went to a secular elementary school, and once these fundies actually gave out free pocket-sized bibles to everyone at the playground. The police eventually escorted him off the school grounds, and we used the bibles to throw at eachother and have a bible fight (they were soft-cover, with a vinyl-like cover).

You have publicly funded religious schools?!

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by MrFun
Asher, if you're referring to the Bible, that in of itself is not a reason to ban it from public school libraries.

The Bible in of itself is not "hate" literature.

Yes it is.

[Heresson]

Oh c-mon. In which part?
Some of the OT perhaps, but NT?

[DinoDoc]

Trolls don't need reasons, Heresson. Children like Kuci are especially prone to fits of irrationality.

[Kuciwalker]

Rich, coming from you

[alva]

You have publicly funded religious schools?!

Funny how that works, cuz we have them too and yet we are faaaar less religious than the US.

[Heresson]

Dino, You are right. I forgot not to take Kuci's remarks seriously.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by alva

You have publicly funded religious schools?!

Funny how that works, cuz we have them too and yet we are faaaar less religious than the US.

Well yeah. Religion flourishes much better in the absence of state support.

[johncmcleod]

You're joking, right?