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  • More from the great state of Alabama:

    MONTGOMERY, Alabama (AP) -- A statewide recount showed that Alabama narrowly voted to keep language in the state constitution supporting segregation and poll taxes, according to unofficial totals released Friday.

    Secretary of State Nancy Worley said voters defeated the amendment by just 1,850 votes out of more than 1.3 million cast. The original vote count showed the amendment lost by the same margin, or 0.13 percent.

    Worley cautioned that the totals are unofficial until the votes are certified next week. "But this is an indication it is not going to turn around," she said.

    The amendment would have erased unenforced language from Alabama's constitution that required segregated schools and poll taxes, which were designed to keep blacks from voting. Supporters of the amendment said the language is a painful and embarrassing reminder of the South's divisive past, and makes Alabama look bad to companies who might want to do business in the state.

    But the measure also would have removed language that said there is no constitutional right to an education at public expense in Alabama. Opponents said removing it could have led to huge, court-ordered tax hikes for schools.

    Gov. Bob Riley said Friday he will ask the Legislature in its February session to approve a version of the amendment that would remove only the constitutional language on segregated schools and poll taxes. That is what he originally wanted, but the Legislature decided to expand his recommendation before presenting it to voters in the November 2 election.

    "Despite the defeat of Amendment Two, I'm confident the vast majority of Alabamians support removing segregationist language from our constitution," the governor said.

    Most counties had close to or exactly the same totals they had on November 2, but some saw variations of hundreds of votes.

    County election officials attributed the differences to some ballots not being counted by electronic scanners because they were too wrinkled, and voters marking the ballots with their personal pens rather than those provided at polling places. In a few instances, counties misplaced some ballots between the election and the recount, election officials said.
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    • So the legislators are to blame, ignore for a moment ignorant voters. The original wording would have removed the crap, but the legislators just HAD to add something to it they new the public wouldn't like.

      Oh, and this is charming:
      County election officials attributed the differences to some ballots not being counted by electronic scanners because they were too wrinkled, and voters marking the ballots with their personal pens rather than those provided at polling places. In a few instances, counties misplaced some ballots between the election and the recount, election officials said.
      I call shenanigans! Scantrons sheets that were used in Nevada until recently didn't care if you used graphite or ink, pollsters' pens or your own, as long as the mark was dark enough. The rest of that paragraph is bullsh*t too of a different sort.
      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

      The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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      • Originally posted by Whaleboy
        Nice of you to address my arguments BK .
        Oddly enough a similar thought occurred to me with regard to my request for information from him.
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        • I smell a rat
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          • Sorry, that's me. I'll take a shower when I get up in a few hours before work.
            The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

            The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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            • Originally posted by DRoseDARs
              Sorry, that's me. I'll take a shower when I get up in a few hours before work.
              Don't forget to remove the rat.
              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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              • urgh.NSFW

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                • Taking care of that now.
                  The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                  The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                  • Books with gay characters on my bookshelf:
                    - Axiomatic and Luminous by Greg Egan
                    - Ash by Mary Gentle
                    - The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson (IIRC)
                    - Iron Council by China Mieville
                    - The Wars by Timothy Findley
                    - Anvil of the Stars by Greg Bear
                    - a few others
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                    • I went to Amazon.com and I found the historical fiction novel that includes two "gay" Confederate soldiers:


                      Unto This Hour, by Tom Wicker




                      I read it a few years ago, and it was excellent reading.
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • I finally posted the info, and nobody rewards me with a cookie for my effort?
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • /me awards MrFun with a gold star and a jar of cookies for valiant effort
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                          • YAY!!
                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                              I wonder.

                              Would there be any uproar about having a bible on the shelves of the university collection?

                              What about in an elementary school?

                              What say ye proponents of free speech?
                              I have yet to see a university where you couldn't get one.

                              For that matter, I have yet to see a public library where you couldn't get one. I'm between dealing with elementary schools, since Ian's too young and Lisa is a senior in high school (Bibles available in that library).

                              A Bible in a public school library shouldn't be a problem. Until you have one in every desk and mandate religion class, or decide to back door some particular sectarian religious instruction by making an English class book report out of it.

                              The problem you seem to be dancing around is how you define a class of books. Should they ban the Ilian because the reason Achilles got so pissed at Hector and got into that dragging the body behind the chariot mutiliation thang was because Patroklos was Achille's lover?
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                              • Originally posted by MrFun
                                I finally posted the info, and nobody rewards me with a cookie for my effort?
                                What info, do you think any of us can really be arsed to read a whole thread dealing with gays and the great state of 'Bammy?
                                When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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