Dealing with Fundamentalism: Secular alternative, or take back the church?

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Superior to all the rest doesn't equal the best possible. It's been a long time with no update.

[Ben Kenobi]

Superior to all the rest doesn't equal the best possible. It's been a long time with no update.

You are right, that even if Christ is God, that there is much more he could say.

However, none of what could be said will contradict what has already been said.

So I'll ask you again, what parts of Christ's teachings do you believe are not good for society?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Skywalker:

True, which is why it is significant to read the account as to the measures taken.

Even the Jews admit an empty tomb, in accusing the disciples of stealing the body.

Yes. So?

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Not that many with Christ's teachings themselves, rather, why does Christianity continue to use so much of the Old Testament?

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Whaleboy


Apparently not, I read in this months national geographic.... 45% of Americans believe in strict creationism, 37% believe in a combination of evolution and creationism and merely 12% concur with 99.98% of scientists who hold that atheistic evolution is the case. They put that down to creationists interferring with attempts to teach evolution (a la monkey trial), general ignorance and the prevalence of popular religion and media to teach evolution, the best of which is left to wildlife documentaries.

actually, less than 50% of scientists are athiests

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Most historical sources don't significantly violate observable physical laws.

there is no violation of observable physicial laws in the Bible

what experiments of scientists have included God in the experiment?

Jon Miller

[asleepathewheel]

/me pokes his toe in

Is evangelical the new right-pc term for fundamentalist?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
there is no violation of observable physicial laws in the Bible

The sun standing still, the creation of the Earth in 6 days, waslking on water, turning water into wine, feeding a multitude with two fish and five loaves, etc.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
* asleepathewheel pokes his toe in

Is evangelical the new right-pc term for fundamentalist?

No, but most Evangelicals are fundimentalists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism

[Jon Miller]

but the Bible says God caused that

there have been no experiments that have included God

therefore there have been no experiments that such is a violation of physical laws

Jon Miller

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
but the Bible says God caused that

Doesn't matter. They are all violations of physical laws.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
actually, less than 50% of scientists are athiests

Jon Miller

For one, that's a hell of a lot better than the rest of the population.

For another, believers don't have to hold creationism as true.

And finally, it is impossible to be a good biologist and NOT believe in evolution. It is a plain contradiction. Especially if you're a biochemist.

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turning water into wine

Still awaiting the day that soeone makes a machine that does this.

[Kuciwalker]

It's called a still.

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That takes too long, and requires too much raw material input- I want something that can be screwed onto a faucet, and presto, beer tap.