I debate a college Democrat.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi


It's a good thing that we have French people on our forum, so that they can explain to us the intricacies of our political system and how the formation of political beliefsin this country goes.

why even post anything at all then dip****

[MRT144]

sorry,

YOURE SO RIGHT SHI! WAY TO TELL THAT DEMOCRAT WHAT YOU THINK AND MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A FOOL!!!!

[Ben Kenobi]

Y'all need to polish up your technique.

I debate with liberals all the time. The key is to wind them up, so that they start attacking you and your family rather than debating the issue at hand.

[MrFun]

Re: I debate a college Democrat.

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
I pointed out to him that the President has no say on Constitutional Amendments, that it is a matter for Congress and the State Legislatures. He said "Ya, well he is influential in getting people to support it" I asked him to provide evidence, but he kept BAMing the same point. I asked him to show me one person who Bush swayed into supporting the FMA who didn't support it previously. At this point he started to get mad at me, called me a fool, and walked away.

I call BS -- Bush has declared a number of times, publicly, that he strongly believes that marriage is only between a man and a woman. THIS implies his strong support for the amendment of bigotry and discrimination.

AND I doubt Bush would have ever vetoed it, had it successfully passed the legislature, which it did not.

[Ben Kenobi]

You should have said that while GBLT may be a civil liberties issue, what about unborn children?

Surely Kerry is soft on civil liberties.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Y'all need to polish up your technique.

I debate with liberals all the time. The key is to wind them up, so that they start attacking you and your family rather than debating the issue at hand.

That's actually a useful technique against anyone holding beliefs they cannot logically explain.

Tends to work well on religionistas, actually...

-Arrian

[The diplomat]

Re: I debate a college Democrat.

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
He said that Kerry was for it, and said that bush was horrible on issues relating to GLBT, minorities. I didn't hear the "GLBT" part at first, so I asked him what he said. He repeated "GLBT", and said that BUsh had been the most hateful president ever towards homosexuals. I asked "What about Clintion, he signed the Defense of Marriage Act" Then this other College Democrat comes up and said "Oh yeah, well Bush supports the Federal Marriage Amendment!!" I pointed out to him that the President has no say on Constitutional Amendments, that it is a matter for Congress and the State Legislatures. He said "Ya, well he is influential in getting people to support it" I asked him to provide evidence, but he kept BAMing the same point.

This examplifies the stereotype that some democrats have about conservatives. If you are a conservative you are automatically a racist, bigot, sexist homophobe. So Bush is a conservative so he must be anti-minority regardless of the fact that his policies of tax cuts and faith based charities have helped minorities improve their lives. If you are a democrat or a liberal you are automatically a champion for minorities. Kerry actually opposes gay marriage but he is automatically considered pro-gay because he is a democrat.

[MrFun]

Re: Re: I debate a college Democrat.

Originally posted by The diplomat


This examplifies the stereotype that some democrats have about conservatives. If you are a conservative you are automatically a racist, bigot, sexist homophobe. If you are a democrat or a liberal you are automatically a champion for minorities.

I'm glad I'm not a liberal who thinks like this. Bill Clinton lost some of his dignity by caving into the Republican Congress, by supporting the DoMA -- definitely not a champion for minorities there.

[Ben Kenobi]

Tends to work well on religionistas, actually...

Nice to know we have something in common with Liberals.

[Drachasor]

Originally posted by Arrian

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Y'all need to polish up your technique.

I debate with liberals all the time. The key is to wind them up, so that they start attacking you and your family rather than debating the issue at hand.

That's actually a useful technique against anyone holding beliefs they cannot logically explain.

Tends to work well on religionistas, actually...

-Arrian

Isn't that technique more useful if you can't actually argue the issues? Otherwise one would actually talk about the issues, yes?

-Drachasor

[Asher]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
You should have said that while GBLT may be a civil liberties issue, what about unborn children?

Surely Kerry is soft on civil liberties.

Because he gives women the liberty to choose?

If people don't consider 1st and 2nd trimester fetus' as human (which they aren't), then your argument fails.

To debate someone adequately, you need to be able to see both sides. Something you've been indoctrined to not understand...

[Ben Kenobi]

You are talking about the issues.

But you make your point in such a way as to wind the Liberals up.

Saying that Kerry is soft on civil liberties, because he permits the weakest people to be killed, is just one way of doing this.

[Ben Kenobi]

Definitely biting today!

3 so far.

[Asher]

The best way to debate with people like Ben is to understand that he's been brainwashed as a child and has no hope of ever being rational or debating logically, or even making sense.

He'll make baffling arguments, and then someone tie them all back to the bible.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Definitely biting today!

3 so far.

That wasn't a bite, it was a counter-troll.

Make that one for me.