EU is becoming anti-christian in politics

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ned
Euro's, why does a statement that the family exists for the protection of women to raise children cause such an uproar in Europe?

It did cause an upraor? Granted, Ididn't read the news these days, but I haven't seen any uproar about it. Just some catholic Italian making an extremely sexist and reactionary statement, and who was politically shot down as he attempted to become one of the EU's top dogs.

[Ben Kenobi]

And besides, who cares if they WERE religious?

The principles upon which the republic were founded upon ought to be reflected in the beliefs of the founders.

[Sava]

The Treaty of Tripoli, passed by the U.S. Senate in 1797, read in part: "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." The treaty was written during the Washington administration, and sent to the Senate during the Adams administration. It was read aloud to the Senate, and each Senator received a printed copy. This was the 339th time that a recorded vote was required by the Senate, but only the third time a vote was unanimous (the next time was to honor George Washington). There is no record of any debate or dissension on the treaty. It was reprinted in full in three newspapers - two in Philadelphia, one in New York City. There is no record of public outcry or complaint in subsequent editions of the papers.

from http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/founders.htm

[Ben Kenobi]

Americans/Canadians (latterly diminished since Iraq)

That seems rather unfair considering that we never rebelled from Britain, and we never declared war on Iraq, and we have supported the Americans less than your lovely Labourites.

[Ben Kenobi]

Nor, does it say that the government was established in opposition to the Christian religion, as Skywalker has proposed.

[Whaleboy]

That seems rather unfair considering that we never rebelled from Britain, and we never declared war on Iraq, and we have supported the Americans less than your lovely Labourites.

Indeed, I concur but then stupidity is not a trait limited solely to your continent. People here assume Canada pretty much as America's puppy, it's almost like Americans thinking Iraq was behind 9/11 .

[Ned]

The bit about the family was from the main story. It was one of the two reasons why the person was excluded from the EU councils. The other was his position on homosexuality being a sin, IIRC. (Which even I agree is utter nonsense.)

[Japher]

We should should revitalize whatever the religion was called that the Ancient Romans and Greeks used. All them gods was kewl

[Whaleboy]

Japher: Better yet, throw the ignorant to the lions

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ned
The bit about the family was from the main story. It was one of the two reasons why the person was excluded from the EU councils. The other was his position on homosexuality being a sin, IIRC. (Which even I agree is utter nonsense.)

Yes, thqt's what I read. I don't remember the main story being about an "uproar" (at least the way I understand it, i.e the public opinion being widely shocked - I would classify, for example, the French overreaction to headscarves as "uproar" in my vocabulary).

I just saw that a guy had a position completely opposite to that of the mainstream EU-Parliament, and who was politically shot-down by the EU-Parli.

If it was an anti-competition commie who was proposed (and politically shot down, because this legislature is very favourable to free-markets), would you have said that the EU persecutes commies?

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


The principles upon which the republic were founded upon ought to be reflected in the beliefs of the founders.

Oh, but they ARE. The thing you seem incapable of grasping is that one can have a personal belief and at the same time accept that others may not share it and be totally fine with that.

-Arrian

[DanS]

Most states within the EU really practice the Separation between church and state,

A sizable minority of EU states do not have a formal separation between church and state, however. Most of the Europeans on this board come from such countries.

[GePap]

Aren't a few members consitutional monarchies were the Sovereign is also the head of the Church? (aka Sweden, UK)

[DanS]

Don't know about Sweden, but the UK certainly.

[GePap]

May the Queen of England chuck you form the Church of England, you swine