More people murdered in Chicago than all of Canada last year

[Geronimo]

I was worried that you had actually lost your cool for a moment there AH.

[Alexander's Horse]

nah - I was just toying with the blowhard.

[Ned]

On second thought, Horse, I'd bring along my Marine Corp nephew. The two of us might be able to dish it out for a good while before you Aussies took tail and ran.

[Alexander's Horse]

Oh I wouldn't sully my own hands

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight
It has been proven that increased punishment for crimes results in a decrease in crime. Instituting the death penalty has been proven to lower the murder rate.

Sure, and next you'll be telling us the Easter Bunny is real.


Canada: Death penalty abolished in 1974, murder rates have steadily decreased since then.
US: Has the death penalty and murder rates are high.

Conservatives need to face reality: Murderers don't give a ****e about the death penalty. They are either too stupid to think about the consequences or they have a death wish.

And face the simple fact that conservative policies that use the court system to fight crime always fail. If you want to reduce crime then reduce poverty. It's simple, which is why the conservatives can't grasp the concept.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
we have lots of guns too but we have a very low murder rate

Crazy Americans.......John Wayne has a lot to answer for.

Wayne is a symptom, not a disease. And I thought you guys were in the midst of having most of your guns confiscated by the state which used the registration lists to facilitate their power grab.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


I would have thought the Internet would have made you realise otherwise.

Actually the internet is pretty damning. If we all live in such wonderful places, why do we spend so much time inside, alone staring at our monitors?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by nostromo
I'm surprised there aren't more murders in France. I lived there for one year, in a small town called Aix-en-Provence, and I didn't feel safe. I almost got mugged two times. Fortunately, I'm a big guy and I can take care of myself! I heard however that the criminality rate in France is quite high.

I've been there. It did seem a little dodgy, but I'm a badass and looked a little dodgy myself.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


no you don't. Australians basically think of Americans as pussies. Anyone can be big and tough with a handgun.

Oh we can fight with fists and knives as well. Do you think all of your stupid Aussie drunken brawling is actually considered fighting anywhere else?

[Alexander's Horse]

(tee hee)

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
(tee hee)

AH, counter-trolled!

[Pekka]

Imran, correct. About the immigration thing. Ain't that a mind boggling thing?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sikander


Actually the internet is pretty damning. If we all live in such wonderful places, why do we spend so much time inside, alone staring at our monitors?

/me turns off computer and goes to find a dandelion patch.

[Thucydides]

Originally posted by Pekka
Eskimoes drank their pee to get high even before alcohol.. I mean, they couldn't get high from it, but come on you have to be pretty high to drink your own piss and think you can get high from it, placebo high. Maybe it's all the raw meat they eat.

That's probably because of the red acacia mushrooms they consumed. It's a narcotic popular in the past in different cultures, one of the side effects aside from getting high is the person becomes enraged. It's believed that the viking berserkers consumed these mushrooms before battle to enter a frenzy. Anyway, the stuff doesn't breakdown even when it goes to your bladder so you can drink the piss of someone who get's high of the stuff and get high yourself.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight

Probably because we have a far larger population.

http://www.truebluenz.orcon.net.nz/n...html#Deterrent

Great site you found. Very objective.

Let me quote from the section 'The Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment':

Abolitionists will claim that most studies show that the death penalty has no effect on the murder rate at all. But that's only because those studies have been focused on inconsistent executions. Capital punishment, like all other applications, must be used consistently in order to be effective. However, the death penalty hasn't been used consistently in the USA for decades, so abolitionists have been able to establish the delusion that it doesn't deter at all to rationalize their fallacious arguments. But the evidence shows that whenever capital punishment is applied consistently or against a small murder rate it has always been followed by a decrease in murder. I have yet to see an example on how the death penalty has failed to reduce the murder rate under those conditions.

So he basically agrees that the death penalty doesn't work in the USA. He then backs up his original statement with a story about 19th century India. Maybe it would have any relevance if the US was being plagued by roaming murder gangs.