Gay Marriage views at Apolyton

[Rogan Josh]

OK Boris. Let's see then. Without doing a search (I trust you ) tell me what my views on gay marriage actually are. I will be surprised if you can because you don't appear to respect the views of people who disagree with you, so I doubt you can remember them.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Is it any different from someone referring to Christians as "jesus freaks?"

The "Jesus Freaks" are actually a specific Christian cult that started in the late 60s. It's kinda like calling all Christians snake handlers.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
OK Boris. Let's see then. Without doing a search (I trust you ) tell me what my views on gay marriage actually are. I will be surprised if you can because you don't appear to respect the views of people who disagree with you, so I doubt you can remember them.

You're accusing me of not respecting the views of others vis-a-vis gay marriage, so why don't you put your money where your mouth is and tell me when I've done such things? I'm not under any obligation to do your homework for you. I've no respect for points of view based on bigotry, mind you, but that's not the same as not respecting an opposing point of view.

So, tell me, since you're obviously Mr. Respectful, how is this:

"Why don't you butt****ers go find your own word for your "unions" and leave ours alone."

Respectful of other people's opinions? Your hypocrisy is quite eye-opening.

[Ming]

I think this is getting TOO PERSONAL...

Let's discuss the issues.. NOT THE PEOPLE.

Last warning.... take your personal disagreements somewhere else.

[Datajack Franit]

I live elsewhere and I am gay, but I think gay marriage is a stupid thing and that we should seek for legal unions recognized by the whole western society instead of alienating the people's vision of gay people and giving religious freaks more ammo

[Agathon]

Not another one...

The Apolyton Gay mafia grows in strength.

[Ned]

Che, I think most people who believe in God will agree with you that neither God nor any of his attributes can be prooved through evidence. Any belief in God requires faith, not logic or intelligence. There are some, like you and me, that frankly do not have that faith. But that does not mean that we should criticize people who do have faith on the grounds that their beliefs are "illogical" or not based on "evidence."

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Agathon
Not another one...

The Apolyton Gay mafia grows in strength.

And we can't even agree...some mafia!

[chequita guevara]

Ned, this isn't a criticism. I just find it funny.

Originally posted by Ned
Any belief in God requires faith, not logic or intelligence.

that does not mean that we should criticize people who do have faith on the grounds that their beliefs are "illogical" or not based on "evidence."

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
You're accusing me of not respecting the views of others vis-a-vis gay marriage, so why don't you put your money where your mouth is and tell me when I've done such things?

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Hey, if straights are too afraid of the competition, that's their problem!

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Don't you mean, "cruci-fiction?"

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I wonder if you have a brain disorder whereby the text on the screen magically transforms itself in your head into a different bunch of words.

I didn't have to look far.

[Ming]

Rogan Josh... I said chill... enough! stick to the TOPIC!

[Boris Godunov]

Gee, two jokes and a comment referring to someone's persistent twisting of arguments, not an opinion on the matter. Sounds like someone has a penchant for taking things out of context!

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The "Jesus Freaks" are actually a specific Christian cult that started in the late 60s. It's kinda like calling all Christians snake handlers.

I don't think that's the connotation given to that phrase today--it's used now as a slur. Still, I never heard of "Jesus Freaks" as a real movement...interesting!

[chequita guevara]

The "Jesus Freaks" are a specific cult, the Children of God. They were a hippie, rock n'roll, Christian cult from the 60s (that are still around). Do a little google on them. One of their big things is using sex to recruit new members (called "flirty fishy").

Later it came to mean rock n'roll Christians in general (Spirit in the Sky), but it is also used as a pajorative by those who don't like Christians.

[Rogan Josh]

Staying on topic... (unlike some) ...

I mean what I said earlier - I don't agree with gay marriage simply on the grounds of the wording. By allowing gay 'marriage' you cause the word 'marriage' to be associated with an activity that many married people find offensive, immoral and disgusting.
I don't think that is right.

Imagine if the word 'homosexual' was to become used to describe sex between men and animals. Would the gay community not find this offensive? Yes, I am sure they would, and rightly so! So why does the gay community not realise that using the word marriage to describe a union between two men is offensive to some people?

[Disclaimer: I am not suggesting that gay sex is in any way equivalent to bestiality.]

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, he's a hatemonger and a lunatic. He believes that the Columbia disaster was caused by homosexuals.

But not in this piece. I condemn him when he says things like this. The piece you cited says nothing of the sort.

It's out of character for you to support hating people. What happened to forgiveness?

If a hater stops hating, then he ought to have forgiveness. For if you would have me forgive one, I must accept forgiveness from all, given a contrite apology.

Again, I ask what would you have me condemn in your citation?