Gay Marriage views at Apolyton

[Imran Siddiqui]

You have the worst timing with attempts at humor, don't you, Jaguar??

At least his are funny .

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

You have the worst timing with attempts at humor, don't you, Jaguar??

At least his are funny .

yeah, uh-huh

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by MrFun
Bullsh*t!

You knew the context in your use of this word was a bigoted slur, so stop pretending innocence.

Which word did you object to, Mr'Fun'? Was it **** or ****, or perhaps ****?

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Lousy article. Not well thought out at all.

I agree. My post about 10 pages back said pretty much the same thing but was much more concise.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
I am surprised by how many posters want polygamy to be legal. Where is that coming from?

From the fact there is hardly any reason to make it illegal more than other forms of marriage?

[Rogan Josh]

It is interesting to note that almost all the pro-gay rights arguments are based on the idea that people should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't affect anyone else negatively.

First of all, do you think this is always the right criterion? There has been a lot of media fuss lately about the guy in Germany who killed and ate his gay lover. His lover alledgedly gave consent to this, so this was an action between two consenting adults. Was this OK? I would say not, and indeed he has been charged with murder. Now, in this case I agree things are not very clear - the 'victim' may not have been of sound mind - but imagine if one could gain an OK from a psychiatrist that one was of sane mind and give permission for the act in writing and in front of witnesses. Would it then be OK?

The same is true for genuine suicide (i.e. where the suicidee is certified sane).

My second objection to this philosophy is that we are all members of the same society. If the society is altered in any way, it affects all of us. If gay marriage becomes legal then our society is altered and things change, which affects people who disapprove of gay marriage. Therefore to say that the people who object to gay marriage have no right to object (because it is a private matter) is plain wrong. You who are arguing for gay-marriage presumably like the changes it will cause in society, but you should acknowledge that some people would be negatively affected too. (This was the point I was trying to make just before Ming started making nasty remarks about me to other posters.)

[Ming]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
(This was the point I was trying to make just before Ming started making nasty remarks about me to other posters.)

First... you were the one that made the NASTY remark that generated complaints... I was just doing my job and warning you to stop. If you want to continue this silly game, I will end it by restricting you... So stop with the crap and stay on topic.

[Ben Kenobi]

homosexuality is distinct from paedophilia in that children cannot consent to sex and that it seems to irreparably damage them in most cases.

Thank you.

I tell you the trolls are knee deep in the thread.

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Ming
First... you were the one that made the NASTY remark that generated complaints... I was just doing my job and warning you to stop. If you want to continue this silly game, I will end it by restricting you... So stop with the crap and stay on topic.

My post was on topic. The part you quote was also on topic since it was pointing out which post I had made this point in earlier, ie. the one just before where you said to Ben, not to me but about me, that "He's just being offensive.". I fail to see how talking about me to other posters is anything to do with 'warning me'?

So lets stay on topic Ming - what is your opinion on the points I raised?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
So lets stay on topic Ming - what is your opinion on the points I raised?

Yes... stay on topic... I only responded when you felt it was neccessary to add "This was the point I was trying to make just before Ming started making nasty remarks about me to other posters" to your last post... so stop the silly games.

If you wish to continue the discussion about your comments and the complaints made... do it via PM. If you want to play the role of "a mod is abusing me"... take your complaints up with the owner and out of the forums. If you continue these mod baiting games in the forums, you are toast.

[Rogan Josh]

You didn't answer the question: what is your opinion on the points I raised?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
You didn't answer the question: what is your opinion on the points I raised?

I have made my opinion on this topic very clear in multiple other threads... I see no point in continuing the discussion with people who will not be changing their opinion anyway.
I have better things to do with my time

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
You who are arguing for gay-marriage presumably like the changes it will cause in society, but you should acknowledge that some people would be negatively affected too.

Every political stance is bound to meet disagreement by some people. If we follow your logic, we should do absolutely nothing at all in our lives, because someone will disagree ("be negatively affected" ) with it.

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Ming
I see no point in continuing the discussion with people who will not be changing their opinion anyway.

Why do you think that? I have already had my mind changed about gay-'marriage' by this forum. I used to be pro, but the gay community here have persuaded me to be against. While you probably can't persuade the diehard posters like Boris, you may be able to sway some of the less gay-'marriage'-committed posters to the anti-gay-'marriage' stance.

Don't be so negative

[Spiffor]

Rogan:
I'm curious. What arguments did sway you into opposing gay marriage?