How far did the Gibson apple fall from the tree?

[Edan]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Personally, I'd like to know why people keep assuming the movie is anti-Jewish.

I'm only going off of what I've read, but honestly, I don't know whether the movie or Gibson is anti-Semitic. Like I've said, the jury's still out. OTOH, regardless of whether Gibson is anti-Semitic, if the movie ends up ressurecting a long dead canard, shame on the movie and on him.

[Ben Kenobi]

if the movie ends up ressurecting a long dead canard, shame on the movie and on him.

The movie reinforces the Jewishness of some of those who supported Christ, as well as the concept that you cannot judge a whole nation, by the actions of a few.

[Dauphin]

The Passion will incite as much hatred against Jews as The Patriot did against Brits.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The fact that such a scene was there in the first place and that Gibson had to remove it under such pressure doesn't bode well in his defense that he isn't on some level promoting an anti-Jewish message.

Well the Jews were involved in killing Jesus. That really can't be denied. So if that is what is mainly being objected to, then the arguments have little merit.

which not only tries to cast the holocaust as just any other "war is hell" evil of war, and doesn't specifically state that there was a planned operation to commit genocide and no mention of death camps

How is any of that anti-semetic? Why does he have to say it was a planned operation or death camps? He said it was an atrocity; does he have to spell out everything?

And I believe there was a discussion here on how much more horrible the Holocaust was compared to other war atrocities. The numbers were higher because of the systematic execution, but there have been plenty of atrocities centered on genocide or killing on the basis of religion, which I'd contend are just as bad as the Holocaust.

[Dr Strangelove]

The idea of a postscript is a good one. I can think of a number of ways that they could de-fuse the controversy.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

The fact that such a scene was there in the first place and that Gibson had to remove it under such pressure doesn't bode well in his defense that he isn't on some level promoting an anti-Jewish message.

Well the Jews were involved in killing Jesus. That really can't be denied. So if that is what is mainly being objected to, then the arguments have little merit.
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Read the ADL web site, that's not what the crux of the complaints are about. It's about a stereotypical depiction of Jews in the film, among other things.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's about a stereotypical depiction of Jews in the film,

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

And have you seen it yet?

Whine to the ADL, I was simply stating to Imran what their complaints are, based on people who have seen the film.

[Ben Kenobi]

Whine to the ADL

They get two:

[Boris Godunov]

You just get a

[Edan]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
The movie reinforces the Jewishness of some of those who supported Christ, as well as the concept that you cannot judge a whole nation, by the actions of a few.

So why's it ok to assume that the movie sends such a message? (or that bigots will get such a message from the movie)

[DinoDoc]

Why is it OK to assume that the movie is anti-Jew?

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
*SNIP* Moreover, the most offensive scene in the move that Jewish groups complained about was removed.

Nope... that scene is still in... but they're talking in Aramaic, and there's no subtitle. However, everyone will know its that scene by the absence of a subtitle.

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why is it OK to assume that the movie is anti-Jew?

because its based on the pro-roman, anti-jewish gospels, written to promote the Roman Catholic church?

[Ben Kenobi]

that the movie sends such a message?

That's what some Jews have also said about the movie.

pro-roman, anti-jewish gospels, written to promote the Roman Catholic church?

How are the Gospels 'pro-roman' and 'anti-Jewish'?