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  • #31
    You are thinking of Clark and Lieberman.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by POTUS
      It is only beginning, we won't know the final results until much later.
      Over half of the precincts are in, it looks a little too late for Gephardt and Dean. Kerry has an advantage, we'll have to see if he or Edwards pulls it out.

      Kerry 37%
      Edwards 33%
      Dean 18%
      Gephardt 11%
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      • #33
        From the entrance polls:

        Why Edwards does well in Iowa.

        Total / Dean / Edwards / Gephardt / Kerry / Kucinich


        Cares about people like me 22 15 41 17 22
        Takes strong stands on the issues 29 31 23 7 26 10
        Has the right experience 15 5 2 18 71
        Can beat George W. Bush 27 21 30 6 37


        41% for of the people feel Edwards cares about them, higher than Kerry, while 71% of the group looking for experience, sees Kerry with the right experience.

        Dean leads with 31% saying that he takes strong stands on the issues, but trails both Kerry and Edwards when people consider whether he can beat Dubya.

        That 41% is huge for Edwards, the only category he polls ahead of Kerry.
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        • #34
          Gephardt's gotta remove himself from this race, if he can only get 4th in a neighboring state, where there are no other real Midwestern candidates. That's a pretty piss-poor showing.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #35
            Kerry 37%
            Edwards 33%
            Dean 18%
            Gephardt 11%

            Dean's gotta get 60% of the remaining ballots, and has to hope the rest continue to split between Kerry and Edwards and Gephardt for him to have a chance.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by DanS
              Gephardt's gotta remove himself from this race, if he can only get 4th in a neighboring state, where there are no other real Midwestern candidates.
              Plus he won the Iowa caucus in 2000. That's quite a fall to take.

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              • #37
                And why Dean did poorly. It's the economy, stupid.

                Total / Dean / Edwards / Gephardt / Kerry

                Economy/Jobs 29 16 34 12 33

                Dean gets 16% of the 29% citing the economy as their primary concern. Edwards and Kerry are nose to nose.
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                • #38
                  And we have a projected winner, Kerry will get the most delegates tonight.
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                  • #39
                    Winston: ITYM, Gephardt won in '88, rather. But the point is still valid.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #40
                      If these results hold, the big losers are:

                      1.Gephardt- basically out of the race
                      2. Dean- his "frontrunner" status is questioned, makes New hampshire a must.
                      3. Lieberman- not running here anyway, but he has essentially become the anti-Dean candidate. If Dean is not the pressumed front runner, what the hell does he do?

                      Big Winners:
                      1. Edwards-biggest single jump up- never seen as a front runner, now has a chance
                      2. Kerry- makes him competative again in New Hampshire, shows his war experience resonates.

                      Mixed:
                      Clark- A huge dent in Dean is good for him, but a big surge in Kerry might sap more people from him than Dean.
                      Kucinich and Sharpton- were not going to do well anyway, so who cares.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                        From the entrance polls:

                        Why Edwards does well in Iowa.

                        Total / Dean / Edwards / Gephardt / Kerry / Kucinich


                        Cares about people like me 22 15 41 17 22
                        Takes strong stands on the issues 29 31 23 7 26 10
                        Has the right experience 15 5 2 18 71
                        Can beat George W. Bush 27 21 30 6 37
                        37% feel Kucinich could beat Bush? 71% feel he has the right experience?

                        That's got to be a typo, no? Or am I just reading it wrong?

                        So, assuming Gephardt drops out, who does he endorse?
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Edan
                          So, assuming Gephardt drops out, who does he endorse?
                          A fellow legislator most likely, either Lieberman or Kerry I would say: though he could always jump in for Clark.
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                          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                          • #43
                            Edan:

                            I suck at graphs.

                            First number in each row is the total.

                            Second number in each row is Dean, etc.

                            Kucinich is 6th, but I only included one section where he polled in double digits. All the others, he had no effect on the overall outcome.



                            Is the link to the exit polls, so you don't have to look at the poor attempt at a graph.
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                            • #44
                              hes not likely to endorse Clark considering his stance on trade.

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                              • #45
                                Gephardt has officialy confirmed he will drop out.
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