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  • #16
    From over here, it looks as if Iowa Democratic Caucus is just a euphemism for the much more accurate Iowa Democratic Circus.

    But of all the trained seals, I still view John Kerry as being most likely to get the biggest applause of the night.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
      I suspected Gephardt at first, but he seems to split in the polls. Dean seems to have the advantage, being only 3 points down with a stronger organization.
      ?? Gephardt has the strongest organization by far. The Union organization is at his disposal plus he has been campaigning in the state for 15 years.
      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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      • #18
        The news is reporting a huge turnout. This appears to be working to the detrement of those with the big organizations
        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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        • #19
          "?? Gephardt has the strongest organization by far. The Union organization is at his disposal plus he has been campaigning in the state for 15 years."

          Yes, but Dean's is stronger then Kerry's

          Foxnes just released the entrance polls:

          Kerry 29%
          Dean 22%
          Edwards 22%
          Gerphardt 16%

          Keep in mind this could well change, as at caucuses people actually discuss the candidates and can change, and 40-50% of people have said their minds are not maid up. Still, Kerry has a pretty substantive lead and it will be hard to knock him off.
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          "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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          • #20
            No, most of the turn-out is union members driving people who normally don't attend to the cacuas.
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            • #21
              Gephardt's Going Down

              Poll Finds Kerry Leads Tight Iowa Race
              20 minutes ago


              By RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer

              DES MOINES, Iowa - Democratic presidential candidates vied for victory Monday across the chilly precincts of Iowa, the first step in the battle to face President Bush (news - web sites) this fall. John Kerry (news - web sites) was leading in preliminary results of an Associated Press survey of Iowa Democrats taken as they entered the caucus sites.

              The survey showed John Edwards (news - web sites) and Howard Dean (news - web sites) battling for second, and **** Gephardt (news - web sites), the winner of the 1988 caucuses, trailing.
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              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #22
                Internal polls are showing Edwards begin to pull ahead of Dean. If Dean finishes 3rd place here, it would be devestating for his campaign.
                "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                • #23
                  More entrance poll numbers are:

                  Kerry 31%
                  Edwards 24%
                  Dean 21%
                  Gephardt 15%

                  Things are looking really bad for Dean and Gephardt.
                  "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                  "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                  • #24
                    With 20% precincts in:

                    Kerry 34%
                    Edwards 31%
                    Dean 18%
                    "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                    "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                    • #25
                      IMHO Edwards has the best chance against Bush.
                      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                      • #26
                        He has no experience.
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                        • #27
                          Very interesting results. Edwards is clearly a huge winner here. Kerry will get a big boost going into New Hampshire. The presumptive front-runners got hammered.

                          It just goes to show that politics is very unpredictable and that's why we all go out to vote.
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                          • #28
                            It is only beginning, we won't know the final results until much later.
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                            • #29
                              Gephardt didn't visit Iowa.
                              Who else blew off all of Iowa, besides MrYouknowwho?
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • #30
                                44% of the precincts have reported. That and the entry polls are a pretty good indication.

                                Gephardt was given no respect, apparently. What happened to his labor legions?
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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