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Yeah!!!! Stick it to those mother$%^& and break it off!!!!
Originally posted by East Street Trader
And their deeds, whether in this skirmish or in any of the stirring battles remembered in the history books, are brutal deeds.
So take no pride in these things. Instead do the same as those who have found themselves taking part. Hate and despise it. And aspire to finding the better way.
You can hate it and despise it, but as long as political leaders and their followers on any one side persist, the profession of soldiering will still exist. Once you're in, clear victory or clear defeat are the only unilateral ways out, because any form of peace requires the acceptance and adherence of all sides.
Until then, you have to deal with the people who keep attacking, and you may as well deal with it professionally, decisively and well, else you end up with FUBARs like the Iran-Iraq war or the Somme.
When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….†(Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)
Why is this wrong?
For two reasons. The first is pragmatic. If we go on resolving issues between nation states by war then the war which ends all life on Earth is not far off. Nation states are good at co-operating. And the weapons which this co-operation have created are ruinously destructive.
Either we find a new way or the human race, along with all other life on the planet, is nearing its end.
The second reason is to do with what is real and what is mere romance.
Glory is the purest romance. I was brought up surrounded by soldiers. Their profession brutalises them. And their deeds, whether in this skirmish or in any of the stirring battles remembered in the history books, are brutal deeds.
So take no pride in these things. Instead do the same as those who have found themselves taking part. Hate and despise it. And aspire to finding the better way.
All of that is basically what I said - it's immature/pointless, but not particularly harmful and not much of a vice.
Apart from the expected battle of Baghdad, I've been absolutely right. And I'm afraid I'm right about the future too.
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….†(Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)
You think the fedayeen are unreasonable? Come and get it, boys!
Do you feel a draft?
It ain't worth the cost of invading Canada MtG.
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"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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It would help if I had a sound card. I have no sound on my computer.
Scouse Git (2)La Fayette Adam SmithSolomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
"Here is what you have yet to hear reported in the mainstream media. In the few weeks since Coalition forces began to launch major counter-insurgency attacks, beginning with Operation Iron Hammer, over 1100 Iraqi Guerrillas have been captured or killed. This represents one-fifth of the entire strength of the Ba’athist and Islamist forces in the country. These figures, presented to President Bush in a secret briefing during his Thanksgiving trip to Baghdad, do not include the forty-six terrorists killed in a battle on November 30th. In other words, the US armed forces are killing and capturing fifteen of the enemy for each loss of their own: and this figure is distorted by the high number of US personnel killed in aircraft shoot-downs in November, a figure which is not likely to be repeated. In individual combat, the results look more and more like those of the last Sunday in November: forty-six of the enemy killed and eight captured with no losses among our forces. At the present rate, the entire force possessed by the enemy will be destroyed, and the country pacified, in a matter of months."
Now, does anyone find this somewhat similar to some of the quotes about Vietnam coming from the military and government in, I dunno, the 1962-64 range?
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